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Well Water Problem Gre0145 04-17-2008
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Posted by Gre0145 on April 17, 2008, 11:10 pm
I just noticed that my washer was taking hours to fill. I cleaned the
filter on the back and it was clogged with mud looking stuff. I then
noticed that after flushing the toilet that the same particles where
in that water as well. Not real thick but you could see them sitting
on the toilet bottom. What is this? I've cleaned my filter on the
washing machine 3 times now just for one load. This appears to be
pretty serious. Anyone have any ideas what this may be and how to fix?
I live in NC and we have been plauged by severe drought for the past
year. It's gotten better over the last 3 months so could the water
table lowering or rising have any impact on this problem?

Posted by John Gilmer on April 17, 2008, 11:47 pm
The odds are quite high that your pump is about to fail. The usual
mechanism in a deep well submerged pump is that the bearings wear and
rotating parts start to rub against stationary parts and grind away.

Our pump was about 30 years old when it failed. It cost about $1,500 to
pull it out and replace it. The first sign of failure was "crap" that
clogged up filters. Just before it failed the water has some oil in it.

You don't want to wait for a complete failure and you don't want to
contaminate your plumbing with the oil.problem?


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Posted by Gre0145 on April 18, 2008, 9:08 am
> The odds are quite high that your pump is about to fail. =A0 =A0The usual
> mechanism in a deep well submerged pump is that the bearings wear and
> rotating parts start to rub against stationary parts and grind away.
>
> Our pump was about 30 years old when it failed. =A0 It cost about $1,500 t=
o
> pull it out and replace it. =A0 =A0The first sign of failure was "crap" th=
at
> clogged up filters. =A0 Just before it failed the water has some oil in it=
.
>
> You don't want to wait for a complete failure and you don't want to
> contaminate your plumbing with the oil.problem?
>
> ** Posted fromhttp://www.teranews.com**

What about rust? My Dad mentioned it may be rust from the pipes and
replacing would solve this problem. Is there anywhere you can take the
water to be tested to find out exactly what the debris is?

Posted by John Gilmer on April 18, 2008, 9:51 am



What about rust? My Dad mentioned it may be rust from the pipes and
replacing would solve this problem. Is there anywhere you can take the
water to be tested to find out exactly what the debris is?

The only cheap water testing is for bacterial contamination.

I'm sure there are labs around your area that will test for anything you
want. Don't be surprised if they want over $100 up front.

Since the OP has "stuff" in the filters, the first thing should be to get a
magnifier and LOOK at the stuff. Is it sand or "mud?" Is it plastic or
metal? Is it "sludge?" Indeed, is it rust?

If nature has pulled a fast one and the bad water is "natural" he will have
to call in folks to either drill a deeper well or treat the now bad water or
both.

But the odds are good that if up to now he had good water the odds are that
something wore out.

If (as is quite likely) he is seeing ground up internal pump parts, he
really should bit the bullet and get the pump pulled up.

If you call the guys with the truck and experience on an emergency basis and
want the water back on ASAP, you will have to buy whatever pump they happen
to stock. That's OK for most and that was OK with us. But you might want
something different like a variable speed pump that tends to keep your
internal water pressure nearly constant rathern than the 30-50 psi swing
with a regular on/off pump pressure switch. My old pump was your typical 3
wire (plus ground) model with a "control box" above ground. The control
box contains a starting relay and capacitor. The replacement pump only
uses 2 wires and all the starting stuff was built into the pump. So far
so good. It does seem to make a little more "buzz" noise than the old
pump. It's amazing that the noise can come up 200' of well pipe and
another 50' to the house.


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Posted by Gre0145 on April 18, 2008, 9:03 pm
> What about rust? My Dad mentioned it may be rust from the pipes and
> replacing would solve thisproblem. Is there anywhere you can take thewater=
to be tested to find out exactly what the debris is?
>
> The only cheapwatertesting is for bacterial contamination.
>
> I'm sure there are labs around your area that will test for anything you
> want. =A0 Don't be surprised if they want over $100 up front.
>
> Since the OP has "stuff" in the filters, the first thing should be to get =
a
> magnifier and LOOK at the stuff. =A0 Is it sand or "mud?" =A0 Is it plasti=
c or
> metal? =A0 Is it "sludge?" =A0 =A0Indeed, is it rust?
>
> If nature has pulled a fast one and the badwateris "natural" he will have
> to call in folks to either drill a deeperwellor treat the now badwateror
> both.
>
> But the odds are good that if up to now he had goodwaterthe odds are that
> something wore out.
>
> If =A0(as is quite likely) he is seeing ground up internal pump parts, he
> really should bit the bullet and get the pump pulled up.
>
> If you call the guys with the truck and experience on an emergency basis a=
nd
> want thewaterback on ASAP, you will have to buy whatever pump they happen
> to stock. =A0 That's OK for most and that was OK with us. =A0 But you migh=
t want
> something different like a variable speed pump that tends to keep your
> internalwaterpressure nearly constant rathern than the 30-50 psi swing
> with a regular on/off pump pressure switch. =A0 My old pump was your typic=
al 3
> wire (plus ground) model with a "control box" above ground. =A0 The contro=
l
> box contains a starting relay and capacitor. =A0 The replacement pump only=

> uses 2 wires and all the starting stuff was built into the pump. =A0 =A0So=
far
> so good. =A0 It does seem to make a little more "buzz" noise than the old
> pump. =A0 It's amazing that the noise can come up 200' ofwellpipe and
> another 50' to the house.
>
> ** Posted fromhttp://www.teranews.com**

I used a clear glass and filled it up using our shower head. There was
more coming from the shower head than anywhere else. Weird. It's not
mud or sand. It's fine, fiber like particles. The water is crystal
clear. After letting the cup sit about 1 hour the bottom was covered.
Not deep but enough to cover it. Again, the particles are very fine,
long (about 4 or 5 mm). Looks like fiber of some sort.

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