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Posted by mm on October 3, 2009, 8:10 pm
wrote:
>mm wrote:
>> I don't know if this is home repair or not, but you are the best guys
>> to ask, and I park my car right next to my home. My apologies if this
>> is off topic.
>>
>> If I "paint" metal with a black indelible marker, and it doesn't look
>> good 6 months from now, will I still be able to paint it with real
>> metal paint, like maybe I should do it now?????
Thanks for all the replies, especially the paint pen, Nate, but no one
answered the one question I asked, above! :-)
>> I'm feeling
>> off-sorts, and it just seems so much easier to use a marker, and
>> there's no chance of spilling the paint.
>>
>> Details:
>> The imitation louvers at the rear side of my car's hood are no longer
>> all black. More than half of it is grey. I guess all the paint is
>> gone. (AFAICR, it was all fine a year or 6 months ago, but I suppose
>> that's unlikely.)
>>
>> They are metal, and normally I would think to use metal paint, but in
>> this case, it seems the easiest thing to do is use a black indelible
>> marker, like a Sharpie. I've been using indelible markers for a lot
>> of things in the last few years** but none as big as this. I have
>> more than one brand of black marker. So I think I can match the color
>> and I think the finish will match fine, or I'll just do the whole
>> louver.
>>
>> If it doesn't look good after a while, will I still be able to paint
>> it?????
Or this one, which is the same.
>> It's a 95 chrysler with hidden wipers so there is no need for real
>> louvers. I expect to have the car another two years.
>> ....
>Sharpies fade pretty quickly outside.
Probably true.
>In the time it took you to type
>your question you could have masked off the area and painted it with a
>spray can.
But that's not so. I do probably have the paint, but I have to find
it among all the other paint. And the borders are curved. I have to
find newspaper, tape, drive a block away where the overspray won't get
on my meighbor's anything, mask it and spray it. I know myself. I'm
not feeling great and I'm not going to do it unless the marker would
make it harder to paint later, when it doesn't look good but hasn't
come off entirely.
Editorial
Once when I wanted to touch up the paint on my car, I went to a car
wash first. Even though I didn't pay for wax and didn't have my
headlights on, they waxed the car anyhow. I was upset because I
thought it meant I couldn't paint that day. The guy insisted the wax
was next to nothing, and though I thought that too, I still figured it
would last for 2 hours until I finished painting. I painted and the
Duplicolor paint was a perfect match to my Mariner Turquoise GM car.
30 seconds after I painted, I couldn't tell where I had painted. It
looked perfect. AFAInoticed, the scratches and nicks stayed painted
for a long time and the wax didn't mess me up at all.
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Posted by Hustlin' Hank on October 3, 2009, 10:11 pm
> wrote:
> >mm wrote:
> >> I don't know if this is home repair or not, but you are the best guys
> >> to ask, and I park my car right next to my home. =EF=BF=BDMy apologies=
if this
> >> is off topic.
> >> If I "paint" metal with a black indelible marker, and it doesn't look
> >> good 6 months from now, will I still be able to paint it with real
> >> metal paint, like maybe I should do it now????? =EF=BF=BD
> Thanks for all the replies, especially the paint pen, Nate, but no one
> answered the one question I asked, above! =EF=BF=BD:-)
> >> I'm feeling
> >> off-sorts, and it just seems so much easier to use a marker, and
> >> there's no chance of spilling the paint.
> >> Details:
> >> The imitation louvers at the rear side of my car's hood are no longer
> >> all black. More than half of it is grey. =EF=BF=BDI guess all the pain=
t is
> >> gone. (AFAICR, it was all fine a year or 6 months ago, but I suppose
> >> that's unlikely.) =EF=BF=BD
> >> They are metal, and normally I would think to use metal paint, but in
> >> this case, it seems the easiest thing to do is use a black indelible
> >> marker, like a Sharpie. =EF=BF=BDI've been using indelible markers for=
a lot
> >> of things in the last few years** but none as big as this. =EF=BF=BDI =
have
> >> more than one brand of black marker. So I think I can match the color
> >> and I think =EF=BF=BDthe finish will match fine, or I'll just do the w=
hole
> >> louver.
> >> If it doesn't look good after a while, will I still be able to paint
> >> it????? =EF=BF=BD
> Or this one, which is the same. =EF=BF=BD
> >> It's a 95 chrysler with hidden wipers so there is no need for real
> >> louvers. =EF=BF=BDI expect to have the car another two years.
> >> ....
> >Sharpies fade pretty quickly outside.
> Probably true.
> >In the time it took you to type
> >your question you could have masked off the area and painted it with a
> >spray can.
> But that's not so. =EF=BF=BD I do probably have the paint, but I have to =
find
> it among all the other paint. =EF=BF=BDAnd the borders are curved. =EF=BF=
=BDI have to
> find newspaper, tape, drive a block away where the overspray won't get
> on my meighbor's anything, mask it and spray it. =EF=BF=BDI know myself. =
I'm
> not feeling great and I'm not going to do it unless the marker would
> make it harder to paint later, when it doesn't look good but hasn't
> come off entirely.
> Editorial
> Once when I wanted to touch up the paint on my car, I went to a car
> wash first. Even though I didn't pay for wax and didn't have my
> headlights on, they waxed the car anyhow. =EF=BF=BDI was upset because I
> thought it meant I couldn't paint that day. =EF=BF=BDThe guy insisted the=
wax
> was next to nothing, and though I thought that too, I still figured it
> would last for 2 hours until I finished painting. =EF=BF=BD I painted and=
the
> Duplicolor paint was a perfect match to my Mariner Turquoise GM car.
> 30 seconds after I painted, I couldn't tell where I had painted. It
> looked perfect. =EF=BF=BDAFAInoticed, the scratches and nicks stayed pain=
ted
> for a long time and the wax didn't mess me up at all.-
Apparently you want to do this job twice because you seem to insist on
using some half-assed way of doing it. Paint is the only way to do it
correctly. Anything else like not wiping your ass after a shit because
it takes too long.
I know it had to hurt when a woman told you what to do. OUCH! :-)
We don't care about your editorial either.
Hank <~~~gets 'er done
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Posted by mm on October 3, 2009, 10:33 pm
On Sat, 3 Oct 2009 19:11:01 -0700 (PDT), "Hustlin' Hank"
>> wrote:
>> >mm wrote:
>> >> I don't know if this is home repair or not, but you are the best guys
>> >> to ask, and I park my car right next to my home. ?My apologies if this
>> >> is off topic.
>> >> If I "paint" metal with a black indelible marker, and it doesn't look
>> >> good 6 months from now, will I still be able to paint it with real
>> >> metal paint, like maybe I should do it now????? ?
>> Thanks for all the replies, especially the paint pen, Nate, but no one
>> answered the one question I asked, above! ?:-)
>> >> I'm feeling
>> >> off-sorts, and it just seems so much easier to use a marker, and
>> >> there's no chance of spilling the paint.
>> >> Details:
>> >> The imitation louvers at the rear side of my car's hood are no longer
>> >> all black. More than half of it is grey. ?I guess all the paint is
>> >> gone. (AFAICR, it was all fine a year or 6 months ago, but I suppose
>> >> that's unlikely.) ?
>> >> They are metal, and normally I would think to use metal paint, but in
>> >> this case, it seems the easiest thing to do is use a black indelible
>> >> marker, like a Sharpie. ?I've been using indelible markers for a lot
>> >> of things in the last few years** but none as big as this. ?I have
>> >> more than one brand of black marker. So I think I can match the color
>> >> and I think ?the finish will match fine, or I'll just do the whole
>> >> louver.
>> >> If it doesn't look good after a while, will I still be able to paint
>> >> it????? ?
>> Or this one, which is the same. ?
>> >> It's a 95 chrysler with hidden wipers so there is no need for real
>> >> louvers. ?I expect to have the car another two years.
>> >> ....
>> >Sharpies fade pretty quickly outside.
>> Probably true.
>> >In the time it took you to type
>> >your question you could have masked off the area and painted it with a
>> >spray can.
>> But that's not so. ? I do probably have the paint, but I have to find
>> it among all the other paint. ?And the borders are curved. ?I have to
>> find newspaper, tape, drive a block away where the overspray won't get
>> on my meighbor's anything, mask it and spray it. ?I know myself. I'm
>> not feeling great and I'm not going to do it unless the marker would
>> make it harder to paint later, when it doesn't look good but hasn't
>> come off entirely.
>> Editorial
>> Once when I wanted to touch up the paint on my car, I went to a car
>> wash first. Even though I didn't pay for wax and didn't have my
>> headlights on, they waxed the car anyhow. ?I was upset because I
>> thought it meant I couldn't paint that day. ?The guy insisted the wax
>> was next to nothing, and though I thought that too, I still figured it
>> would last for 2 hours until I finished painting. ? I painted and the
>> Duplicolor paint was a perfect match to my Mariner Turquoise GM car.
>> 30 seconds after I painted, I couldn't tell where I had painted. It
>> looked perfect. ?AFAInoticed, the scratches and nicks stayed painted
>> for a long time and the wax didn't mess me up at all.-
>Apparently you want to do this job twice because you seem to insist on
>using some half-assed way of doing it. Paint is the only way to do it
>correctly. Anything else like not wiping your ass after a shit because
>it takes too long.
>I know it had to hurt when a woman told you what to do. OUCH! :-)
>We don't care about your editorial either.
>Hank <~~~gets 'er done
Managed to be vulgar, but still didn't answer the question.
Try to take it easy and not get so upset so easily.
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Posted by aemeijers on October 3, 2009, 10:56 pm
mm wrote:
> On Sat, 3 Oct 2009 19:11:01 -0700 (PDT), "Hustlin' Hank"
>
>>> wrote:
>>>> mm wrote:
>>>>> I don't know if this is home repair or not, but you are the best guys
>>>>> to ask, and I park my car right next to my home. ?My apologies if this
>>>>> is off topic.
>>>>> If I "paint" metal with a black indelible marker, and it doesn't look
>>>>> good 6 months from now, will I still be able to paint it with real
>>>>> metal paint, like maybe I should do it now????? ?
>>> Thanks for all the replies, especially the paint pen, Nate, but no one
>>> answered the one question I asked, above! ?:-)
Not familiar with the model in question, but if I was gonna bother to
paint it, I'd probably take it off the car (if possible), paint it
inside, and maybe bake it with a heatlamp or in the oven, if the part is
small enough. After scuffing the old surface, and a thorough
degreasing, of course. If I really wanted it to be pretty, I'd take it
someplace and have it powder-coated. Or maybe stop by a junkyard, and
see if I could find one in better shape for a few bucks. Detroit seems
to have trouble with black trim- any I have ever had ended up looking
like crap after a few years. Unless it actually started rusting, I
didn't worry about it.
But to answer the question- nah, the marker won't stop you from
repainting. The surface prep you do (scuffing and degreasing) will bare
enough metal to give the paint a good bite, and the layer of ink is so
thin as to be porous anyway.
--
aem sends...
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Posted by mm on October 4, 2009, 12:49 am
wrote:
>mm wrote:
>> On Sat, 3 Oct 2009 19:11:01 -0700 (PDT), "Hustlin' Hank"
>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> mm wrote:
>>>>>> I don't know if this is home repair or not, but you are the best guys
>>>>>> to ask, and I park my car right next to my home. ?My apologies if this
>>>>>> is off topic.
>>>>>> If I "paint" metal with a black indelible marker, and it doesn't look
>>>>>> good 6 months from now, will I still be able to paint it with real
>>>>>> metal paint, like maybe I should do it now????? ?
>>>> Thanks for all the replies, especially the paint pen, Nate, but no one
>>>> answered the one question I asked, above! ?:-)
>Not familiar with the model in question, but if I was gonna bother to
>paint it, I'd probably take it off the car (if possible), paint it
I really should look before I write this line, but.... I don't think
it is meant to come off, or at least I'd have to find new connectors
to put it back on.
>inside, and maybe bake it with a heatlamp or in the oven, if the part is
>small enough. After scuffing the old surface, and a thorough
>degreasing, of course. If I really wanted it to be pretty, I'd take it
>someplace and have it powder-coated. Or maybe stop by a junkyard, and
>see if I could find one in better shape for a few bucks. Detroit seems
>to have trouble with black trim- any I have ever had ended up looking
>like crap after a few years.
I'm sure it looked okay two years ago, when the car was 13 years old.
Perhaps a little grey showed, but not enough to bother me. But it
makes sense that it might wear out almost everywhere at the same time,
because the only wear on it is the weather and the wind. It seems to
>Unless it actually started rusting, I
>didn't worry about it.
No rust on the top. The whole surface, grey or black, is fairly
rough, but it's not rust.
>But to answer the question- nah, the marker won't stop you from
>repainting. The surface prep you do (scuffing and degreasing) will bare
>enough metal to give the paint a good bite, and the layer of ink is so
>thin as to be porous anyway.
Thanks. That makes sense. Maybe that's why the wax didn't interfere
with my scratch painting years ago.
Mark, thanks for writing. I did have my mind made up from the
begining. I notice now that I did ask an open-ended question in the
subject line -- maybe the bad result this time of a normally good
habit -- and I apologize if that overly influenced anyone. But in the
body of the post, the only question I asked was whether the the
Sharpie would interfere with painting later. If it would, then I'd
switch to painting now, which is why I wrote the subject line as I
did.
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