What to use to paint metal black?

Posted by Mark on October 3, 2009, 11:02 pm

> On Sat, 3 Oct 2009 19:11:01 -0700 (PDT), "Hustlin' Hank"

>>> wrote:
>>> >mm wrote:
>>> >> I don't know if this is home repair or not, but you are the best guys
>>> >> to ask, and I park my car right next to my home. ?My apologies if
>>> >> this
>>> >> is off topic.
>>> >> If I "paint" metal with a black indelible marker, and it doesn't look
>>> >> good 6 months from now, will I still be able to paint it with real
>>> >> metal paint, like maybe I should do it now????? ?
>>> Thanks for all the replies, especially the paint pen, Nate, but no one
>>> answered the one question I asked, above! ?:-)
>>> >> I'm feeling
>>> >> off-sorts, and it just seems so much easier to use a marker, and
>>> >> there's no chance of spilling the paint.
>>> >> Details:
>>> >> The imitation louvers at the rear side of my car's hood are no longer
>>> >> all black. More than half of it is grey. ?I guess all the paint is
>>> >> gone. (AFAICR, it was all fine a year or 6 months ago, but I suppose
>>> >> that's unlikely.) ?
>>> >> They are metal, and normally I would think to use metal paint, but in
>>> >> this case, it seems the easiest thing to do is use a black indelible
>>> >> marker, like a Sharpie. ?I've been using indelible markers for a lot
>>> >> of things in the last few years** but none as big as this. ?I have
>>> >> more than one brand of black marker. So I think I can match the color
>>> >> and I think ?the finish will match fine, or I'll just do the whole
>>> >> louver.
>>> >> If it doesn't look good after a while, will I still be able to paint
>>> >> it????? ?
>>> Or this one, which is the same. ?
>>> >> It's a 95 chrysler with hidden wipers so there is no need for real
>>> >> louvers. ?I expect to have the car another two years.
>>> >> ....
>>> >Sharpies fade pretty quickly outside.
>>> Probably true.
>>> >In the time it took you to type
>>> >your question you could have masked off the area and painted it with a
>>> >spray can.
>>> But that's not so. ? I do probably have the paint, but I have to find
>>> it among all the other paint. ?And the borders are curved. ?I have to
>>> find newspaper, tape, drive a block away where the overspray won't get
>>> on my meighbor's anything, mask it and spray it. ?I know myself. I'm
>>> not feeling great and I'm not going to do it unless the marker would
>>> make it harder to paint later, when it doesn't look good but hasn't
>>> come off entirely.
>>> Editorial
>>> Once when I wanted to touch up the paint on my car, I went to a car
>>> wash first. Even though I didn't pay for wax and didn't have my
>>> headlights on, they waxed the car anyhow. ?I was upset because I
>>> thought it meant I couldn't paint that day. ?The guy insisted the wax
>>> was next to nothing, and though I thought that too, I still figured it
>>> would last for 2 hours until I finished painting. ? I painted and the
>>> Duplicolor paint was a perfect match to my Mariner Turquoise GM car.
>>> 30 seconds after I painted, I couldn't tell where I had painted. It
>>> looked perfect. ?AFAInoticed, the scratches and nicks stayed painted
>>> for a long time and the wax didn't mess me up at all.-

>>Apparently you want to do this job twice because you seem to insist on
>>using some half-assed way of doing it. Paint is the only way to do it
>>correctly. Anything else like not wiping your ass after a shit because
>>it takes too long.
>>I know it had to hurt when a woman told you what to do. OUCH! :-)
>>We don't care about your editorial either.
>>Hank <~~~gets 'er done

> Managed to be vulgar, but still didn't answer the question.
> Try to take it easy and not get so upset so easily.

While Hank's delivery may have been a bit rough, he is correct that you seem
set to take the marks-a-lot route on this, which as all have advised is
probably not going to last. If you can't take the time to do it correct, go
for the marker. In a year you will probably be doing it the right way and
will probably not post to the list telling us we were right.

Have a good day.

Posted by on October 4, 2009, 7:52 am

>> On Sat, 3 Oct 2009 19:11:01 -0700 (PDT), "Hustlin' Hank"

>>>> wrote:
>>>> >mm wrote:
>>>> >> I don't know if this is home repair or not, but you are the best guys
>>>> >> to ask, and I park my car right next to my home. ?My apologies if
>>>> >> this
>>>> >> is off topic.
>>>> >> If I "paint" metal with a black indelible marker, and it doesn't look
>>>> >> good 6 months from now, will I still be able to paint it with real
>>>> >> metal paint, like maybe I should do it now????? ?
>>>> Thanks for all the replies, especially the paint pen, Nate, but no one
>>>> answered the one question I asked, above! ?:-)
>>>> >> I'm feeling
>>>> >> off-sorts, and it just seems so much easier to use a marker, and
>>>> >> there's no chance of spilling the paint.
>>>> >> Details:
>>>> >> The imitation louvers at the rear side of my car's hood are no longer
>>>> >> all black. More than half of it is grey. ?I guess all the paint is
>>>> >> gone. (AFAICR, it was all fine a year or 6 months ago, but I suppose
>>>> >> that's unlikely.) ?
>>>> >> They are metal, and normally I would think to use metal paint, but in
>>>> >> this case, it seems the easiest thing to do is use a black indelible
>>>> >> marker, like a Sharpie. ?I've been using indelible markers for a lot
>>>> >> of things in the last few years** but none as big as this. ?I have
>>>> >> more than one brand of black marker. So I think I can match the color
>>>> >> and I think ?the finish will match fine, or I'll just do the whole
>>>> >> louver.
>>>> >> If it doesn't look good after a while, will I still be able to paint
>>>> >> it????? ?
>>>> Or this one, which is the same. ?
>>>> >> It's a 95 chrysler with hidden wipers so there is no need for real
>>>> >> louvers. ?I expect to have the car another two years.
>>>> >> ....
>>>> >Sharpies fade pretty quickly outside.
>>>> Probably true.
>>>> >In the time it took you to type
>>>> >your question you could have masked off the area and painted it with a
>>>> >spray can.
>>>> But that's not so. ? I do probably have the paint, but I have to find
>>>> it among all the other paint. ?And the borders are curved. ?I have to
>>>> find newspaper, tape, drive a block away where the overspray won't get
>>>> on my meighbor's anything, mask it and spray it. ?I know myself. I'm
>>>> not feeling great and I'm not going to do it unless the marker would
>>>> make it harder to paint later, when it doesn't look good but hasn't
>>>> come off entirely.
>>>> Editorial
>>>> Once when I wanted to touch up the paint on my car, I went to a car
>>>> wash first. Even though I didn't pay for wax and didn't have my
>>>> headlights on, they waxed the car anyhow. ?I was upset because I
>>>> thought it meant I couldn't paint that day. ?The guy insisted the wax
>>>> was next to nothing, and though I thought that too, I still figured it
>>>> would last for 2 hours until I finished painting. ? I painted and the
>>>> Duplicolor paint was a perfect match to my Mariner Turquoise GM car.
>>>> 30 seconds after I painted, I couldn't tell where I had painted. It
>>>> looked perfect. ?AFAInoticed, the scratches and nicks stayed painted
>>>> for a long time and the wax didn't mess me up at all.-
>>>Apparently you want to do this job twice because you seem to insist on
>>>using some half-assed way of doing it. Paint is the only way to do it
>>>correctly. Anything else like not wiping your ass after a shit because
>>>it takes too long.
>>>I know it had to hurt when a woman told you what to do. OUCH! :-)
>>>We don't care about your editorial either.
>>>Hank <~~~gets 'er done

>> Managed to be vulgar, but still didn't answer the question.
>> Try to take it easy and not get so upset so easily.

>While Hank's delivery may have been a bit rough, he is correct that you seem
>set to take the marks-a-lot route on this, which as all have advised is
>probably not going to last. If you can't take the time to do it correct, go
>for the marker. In a year you will probably be doing it the right way and
>will probably not post to the list telling us we were right.
>Have a good day.

Marks-a-lot will not look black. Ii will look purple.

Leaving it the way it is would look better, and offer just as much
protection.

Posted by HeyBub on October 4, 2009, 12:29 pm

mm wrote:

> But that's not so. I do probably have the paint, but I have to find
> it among all the other paint. And the borders are curved. I have to
> find newspaper, tape, drive a block away where the overspray won't get
> on my meighbor's anything, mask it and spray it. I know myself. I'm
> not feeling great and I'm not going to do it unless the marker would
> make it harder to paint later, when it doesn't look good but hasn't
> come off entirely.

So remove the thing that needs paint and decamp to your living room where
you can spray the item to your heart's content. No masking, no neighbor, no
hunting for paint - except in the Rustoleum aisle at Home Depot.

Posted by Hustlin' Hank on October 4, 2009, 5:32 pm

> mm wrote:

> > But that's not so. =EF=BF=BD I do probably have the paint, but I have t=

o find

> > it among all the other paint. =EF=BF=BDAnd the borders are curved. =EF=

=BF=BDI have to

> > find newspaper, tape, drive a block away where the overspray won't get
> > on my meighbor's anything, mask it and spray it. =EF=BF=BDI know myself=

. I'm

> > not feeling great and I'm not going to do it unless the marker would
> > make it harder to paint later, when it doesn't look good but hasn't
> > come off entirely.

> So remove the thing that needs paint and decamp to your living room where
> you can spray the item to your heart's content. No masking, no neighbor, =

> hunting for paint - except in the Rustoleum aisle at Home Depot.

Can't you see that he had his mind made up from the beginning? He
never planned on painting it in the first place. I don't know why he
asked the question in the first place. Must be a troll that does
shoddy work.

Hank <~~~never ceases to be amazed

Posted by Hustlin' Hank on October 5, 2009, 5:39 am

> Other than the subject line, which can be read more than one way, I
> never suggested my mind wasn't made up before I posted, unless people
> told me that the marker would make it harder to paint later. =EF=BF=BDTha=

t was

> my question. =EF=BF=BDAt the start no one addressed that, and later 3 peo=

ple

> said it woudnb't make it more difficult. =EF=BF=BDSo from my pov, no one =

gave

> me a reason not to use the marker pen. =EF=BF=BD So I'm going with the ma=

rker

> as I implied I would. Next spring maybe I'll paint it. I have a lot of
> other things to take up my time now.-

They answered your question, it just wasn't the answer you wanted to
hear. Their answer was basically: Why use a marker when it would only
take a couple extra minutes to do it right, which you admit will have
to be done later. In other words, they are telling you it is a stupid
idea.

Hank <~~~~leaving this topic

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