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Wheel is loose on angle grinder shaft mm 01-11-2007
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Posted by zxcvbob on January 11, 2007, 11:21 pm


mm wrote:
> My Harbor Freight abrasive wheels have holes either too big or too
> small for my Harbor Freight 4" angle grinder.
>
> Was I supposed to get wheels with smaller or bigger holes or use an
> additional spacer, or should I try to return the tool to Harbor
> Freight?
>
> I have very little use for one, so I bought the cheapest angle grinder
> I could find, HF, and I bought their house brand set of grinder
> wheels, four kinds on a piece of cardboard for 10 dollars. Months ago,
> but I just got around to putting an abrasive wheel on the grinder.
> Isn't it supposed to fit neatly?
>
> The hole in the wheel is labeled 5/8" and is 5/8" (about 16mm)
>
> The shaft at the place where the wheel rests is only as thick as the
> threaded part but without the threads, at least 3 mm smaller than the
> hole. I can't position the wheel and tighten the nut so that it
> rotates true.
>
> Since one grinds with the edge sometimes, espcially with the wheels
> without the recessed hole, doesn't the wheel have to mount almost
> perfectly?:
>
> Potential partial fix 1: The outer diameter of the threaded parts is
> almost 5/8", maybe a sixteenth or 32nd less. I could put a spacer on
> the shaft so that the wheel would be at the threaded part.
>
> Potential partial fix 2: There is a thick "washer" or spacer with a
> shoulder that would fit bigger holes, 7/8" or maybe just under. Do
> they have wheels with bigger holes?
>
> These potential fixes don't seem right to me.


Are you sure you got a 4" grinder and not a 4 1/2? Four inch wheels
usually have a 5/8" and 4 1/2 inch wheels have 7/8". You can also get
cutoff wheels with 7/8" hole and a 5/8 x 7/8 adapter (looks like a washer)
that will fit either size shaft.

I think a good pair of end nipper pliers would have worked better for you
for cutting off roofing nails.

Bob

Posted by mm on January 12, 2007, 3:32 am


wrote:

>mm wrote:
>> My Harbor Freight abrasive wheels have holes either too big or too
>> small for my Harbor Freight 4" angle grinder.
>>
>> Was I supposed to get wheels with smaller or bigger holes or use an
>> additional spacer, or should I try to return the tool to Harbor
>> Freight?
>>
>> I have very little use for one, so I bought the cheapest angle grinder
>> I could find, HF, and I bought their house brand set of grinder
>> wheels, four kinds on a piece of cardboard for 10 dollars. Months ago,
>> but I just got around to putting an abrasive wheel on the grinder.
>> Isn't it supposed to fit neatly?
>>
>> The hole in the wheel is labeled 5/8" and is 5/8" (about 16mm)
>>
>> The shaft at the place where the wheel rests is only as thick as the
>> threaded part but without the threads, at least 3 mm smaller than the
>> hole. I can't position the wheel and tighten the nut so that it
>> rotates true.
>>
>> Since one grinds with the edge sometimes, espcially with the wheels
>> without the recessed hole, doesn't the wheel have to mount almost
>> perfectly?:
>>
>> Potential partial fix 1: The outer diameter of the threaded parts is
>> almost 5/8", maybe a sixteenth or 32nd less. I could put a spacer on
>> the shaft so that the wheel would be at the threaded part.

Still a possibility. Have to see if it still wobbles.
>>
>> Potential partial fix 2: There is a thick "washer" or spacer with a
>> shoulder that would fit bigger holes, 7/8" or maybe just under. Do
>> they have wheels with bigger holes?
>>
>> These potential fixes don't seem right to me.
>
>
>Are you sure you got a 4" grinder and not a 4 1/2? Four inch wheels

Yeah. It says it on the box and it says it on the instruction
manual, and the 4" wheel fits within the wheel shroud, but 4 1/2
wouldn't. The safety instructions (6 pages of them if you count the
page on what extension cord to use) has very few lines that are
specific to this device, but one says "Use ONLY 4" diameter Grinding
Wheels (not included) having a 5/8" center mounting hole." That's
funny.

>usually have a 5/8" and 4 1/2 inch wheels have 7/8".

It's funny because if I try one with a 5/8" hole, there are three
parts to the shaft. The bottom part is bigger than 5/8 so it won't
fit. The middle part is at least 3mm smaller and it can't be centered,
and the end part IS 5/8ths, but only at the outermost part of the
threads, so maybe I can use it after I enlarge the hole in a tbick
washer to 5/8 (or maybe I can buy one) to lift the wheel out of the
narrow middle part, but otoh on the outermost part, the spaces between
the threads are so big that I think the wheel will still move some
around and it may be impossible to tighten it with the wheel centered.


It has an adapter to accept 7/8, and it came with one 7/8" wheel.

> You can also get
>cutoff wheels with 7/8" hole and a 5/8 x 7/8 adapter (looks like a washer)
>that will fit either size shaft.
>
>I think a good pair of end nipper pliers would have worked better for you
>for cutting off roofing nails.

You might well be right, but I'll only learn what an angle grinder can
do by using one. This was the only project I thought of that could
use one, but I guess based on other tools in the past, subconsciously
I want a tool because I know I'll find other uses for it.

In fact, even consciously I"ve often said that no matter how few tools
I have with me, they are enough, and no matter how many tools I have,
I need them all.

My friend or her employee uses hers for cutting locks off when people
lose their keys. (at the ministorage she runs) (But I have no locks
that need cutting.) I thought I could borrow hers overnight or over a
Sunday when they are closed, but she insists her uncle the boss might
want to use it at any moment and will get upset if it is not there.
And I believe her. So I was going to ask him** to borrow it, when I
saw this for sale at HF and bought it on impulse. **He's always
polite to me and doesn't mind my sitting there talking to his niece
when she's at work, but that doesn't mean he'll lend tools!

>Bob


Posted by on January 12, 2007, 5:15 am


>
>wrote:
>
>>mm wrote:
>>> My Harbor Freight abrasive wheels have holes either too big or too
>>> small for my Harbor Freight 4" angle grinder.
>>>
>>> Was I supposed to get wheels with smaller or bigger holes or use an
>>> additional spacer, or should I try to return the tool to Harbor
>>> Freight?
>>>
>>> I have very little use for one, so I bought the cheapest angle grinder
>>> I could find, HF, and I bought their house brand set of grinder
>>> wheels, four kinds on a piece of cardboard for 10 dollars. Months ago,
>>> but I just got around to putting an abrasive wheel on the grinder.
>>> Isn't it supposed to fit neatly?
>>>
>>> The hole in the wheel is labeled 5/8" and is 5/8" (about 16mm)
>>>
>>> The shaft at the place where the wheel rests is only as thick as the
>>> threaded part but without the threads, at least 3 mm smaller than the
>>> hole. I can't position the wheel and tighten the nut so that it
>>> rotates true.
>>>
>>> Since one grinds with the edge sometimes, espcially with the wheels
>>> without the recessed hole, doesn't the wheel have to mount almost
>>> perfectly?:
>>>
>>> Potential partial fix 1: The outer diameter of the threaded parts is
>>> almost 5/8", maybe a sixteenth or 32nd less. I could put a spacer on
>>> the shaft so that the wheel would be at the threaded part.
>
>Still a possibility. Have to see if it still wobbles.
>>>
>>> Potential partial fix 2: There is a thick "washer" or spacer with a
>>> shoulder that would fit bigger holes, 7/8" or maybe just under. Do
>>> they have wheels with bigger holes?
>>>
>>> These potential fixes don't seem right to me.
>>
>>
>>Are you sure you got a 4" grinder and not a 4 1/2? Four inch wheels
>
>Yeah. It says it on the box and it says it on the instruction
>manual, and the 4" wheel fits within the wheel shroud, but 4 1/2
>wouldn't. The safety instructions (6 pages of them if you count the
>page on what extension cord to use) has very few lines that are
>specific to this device, but one says "Use ONLY 4" diameter Grinding
>Wheels (not included) having a 5/8" center mounting hole." That's
>funny.
>
>>usually have a 5/8" and 4 1/2 inch wheels have 7/8".
>
>It's funny because if I try one with a 5/8" hole, there are three
>parts to the shaft. The bottom part is bigger than 5/8 so it won't
>fit. The middle part is at least 3mm smaller and it can't be centered,
>and the end part IS 5/8ths, but only at the outermost part of the
>threads, so maybe I can use it after I enlarge the hole in a tbick
>washer to 5/8 (or maybe I can buy one) to lift the wheel out of the
>narrow middle part, but otoh on the outermost part, the spaces between
>the threads are so big that I think the wheel will still move some
>around and it may be impossible to tighten it with the wheel centered.
>
>
>It has an adapter to accept 7/8, and it came with one 7/8" wheel.
>
>> You can also get
>>cutoff wheels with 7/8" hole and a 5/8 x 7/8 adapter (looks like a washer)
>>that will fit either size shaft.
>>
>>I think a good pair of end nipper pliers would have worked better for you
>>for cutting off roofing nails.
>
>You might well be right, but I'll only learn what an angle grinder can
>do by using one. This was the only project I thought of that could
>use one, but I guess based on other tools in the past, subconsciously
>I want a tool because I know I'll find other uses for it.
>
>In fact, even consciously I"ve often said that no matter how few tools
>I have with me, they are enough, and no matter how many tools I have,
>I need them all.
>
>My friend or her employee uses hers for cutting locks off when people
>lose their keys. (at the ministorage she runs) (But I have no locks
>that need cutting.) I thought I could borrow hers overnight or over a
>Sunday when they are closed, but she insists her uncle the boss might
>want to use it at any moment and will get upset if it is not there.
>And I believe her. So I was going to ask him** to borrow it, when I
>saw this for sale at HF and bought it on impulse. **He's always
>polite to me and doesn't mind my sitting there talking to his niece
>when she's at work, but that doesn't mean he'll lend tools!
>
>>Bob
>

If you ever lock yourself out of your car you'll be glad you had one of these
tools. I had this happen and I just took my angle grinder and cut a hole thru
the sheet metal on my door until I was able to crawl thru that hole and get my
keys out of the ignition. Worked great.

William


Posted by mm on January 12, 2007, 8:31 am


On 12 Jan 2007 02:15:13 -0800, wsterling@liverpool.uk wrote:

>
>>
>
>If you ever lock yourself out of your car you'll be glad you had one of these
>tools. I had this happen and I just took my angle grinder and cut a hole thru
>the sheet metal on my door until I was able to crawl thru that hole and get my
>keys out of the ignition. Worked great.

I would need to lose weight.

Might happen if all the food is locked in the car.
>
>William


Posted by zxcvbob on January 12, 2007, 2:19 pm


wsterling@liverpool.uk wrote:
>
> If you ever lock yourself out of your car you'll be glad you had one of these
> tools. I had this happen and I just took my angle grinder and cut a hole thru
> the sheet metal on my door until I was able to crawl thru that hole and get my
> keys out of the ignition. Worked great.
>
> William
>


Good thing the window wasn't rolled down; it would have /really/ been in
the way inside the door.


Best regards,
Bob <-- still needs to cut a hole in the hood of wrecked-but-drivable
car to release the latch

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