Home Page link

When and how to coat concrete driveway

Home Repair - - If it ain't broken, don't fix it. Otherwise look here. 

Page 2 of 3       < 1 2 3 > last >> Bookmark this page:  YahooMyWeb Yahoo!  Google Google  Windows Live Favorites Windows Live  del.icio.us del.icio.us  digg digg  Add to Netscape Netscape
Subject Author Date
When and how to coat concrete driveway Ook 05-01-2007
If you were  Registered and logged in, you could reply and use other advanced thread options
Posted by Charlie Morgan on May 2, 2007, 6:37 pm



>>
>> > How long after pouring the concrete do I have to wait before coating
>> > it? I've not found a lot of information on this subject, any good
>> > sites or resources that you would recommend?
>>
>> Most of the sidewalks in town are 5 to 75 years old and they are still
>> waiting to coat them. I'd wait that long too.
>
>Most of the sidewalks where I live are not that old, and are in very
>poor condition. It rains a lot here, and the rain appears to erode the
>concrete. This is especially noticeable in places where part of the
>concrete is sheltered from the rain. The part that doesn't get rain
>has an almost new appearance. The part that has been rained on looks
>like the cement dissolved, exposing the rocks/pebbles that was mixed
>into it. In some places this is severe - my old driveway was very
>badly eroded. But any cement around here that has been around for a
>while seems to do this.
>
>Maybe I should just dump some oil on it, and let that protect it from
>rain? :-)

Welcome to acid rain.

CWM

Plumbing 468x60
Posted by jason4225@yahoo.com on May 3, 2007, 4:20 pm


>
>
> > > How long after pouring the concrete do I have to wait before coating
> > > it? I've not found a lot of information on this subject, any good
> > > sites or resources that you would recommend?
>
> > Most of the sidewalks in town are 5 to 75 years old and they are still
> > waiting to coat them. I'd wait that long too.
>
> Most of the sidewalks where I live are not that old, and are in very
> poor condition. It rains a lot here, and the rain appears to erode the
> concrete. This is especially noticeable in places where part of the
> concrete is sheltered from the rain. The part that doesn't get rain
> has an almost new appearance. The part that has been rained on looks
> like the cement dissolved, exposing the rocks/pebbles that was mixed
> into it. In some places this is severe - my old driveway was very
> badly eroded. But any cement around here that has been around for a
> while seems to do this.
>
> Maybe I should just dump some oil on it, and let that protect it from
> rain? :-)

Deterioration of the surface is a bit more complex than simple
freeze-thaw-salt exposure. Over-troweling to produce a super-smooth
surface can produce a really inferior surface with very poor
weathering properties, i.e.

http://www.tpub.com/content/construction/14043/css/14043_199.htm

". . .Begin floating immediately after screeding while the concrete is
still plastic and workable. However, do not overwork the concrete
while it is still plastic because you may bring an excess of water and
paste to the surface. This fine material forms a thin, weak
layer that will scale or quickly wear off under use. . ."

I would avoid oil. You want to dissolve the waterproofing agent in
paint thinner. By the time you paid for the oil and thinner, you
would be approaching the cost of a good acrylic-silicone based
waterproofer but self-formulating an inferior product.

Jason



Posted by jason4225@yahoo.com on May 2, 2007, 7:43 am


> We finally got out driveway finished! Woohoo! soo...I'm looking for
> info on coating it. What kinds of coatings are available? I'm mostly
> interesting in prolonging the life of the driveway. I've seen concrete
> here partially exposed to the rain, and the part exposed to the rain
> eventually erodes. I'd like to prevent that if possible.
>
> How long after pouring the concrete do I have to wait before coating
> it? I've not found a lot of information on this subject, any good
> sites or resources that you would recommend?

>From what I remember about concrete roadways, you can put down a
penetrating-type waterproofing sealer just about anytime. There are
waterproofing coatings which can be applied the same day the concrete
is poured. In fact, that's how they lay down premium bridge decks
which represent about the most difficult applications for concrete in
a roadway.

I would stay away from Thompsons. It's one of the most cheaply made
but expensively advertised versions around. From what I've read
about it, it gets most of its protective effects from the wax
dissolved in the paint thinner.

I favor the silicone-based, acrylic-based products.

I agree with your concerns. When I spent some time working for a
bridge-deck contractor, they kept comparing concrete to sugar cubes,
i.e. porous and easily damaged by water. If you want to keep an
attractive surface under freeze-thaw conditions, you have to seal
those pores.

-Jason



Posted by Ook on May 2, 2007, 6:42 pm


<snip>
> I agree with your concerns. When I spent some time working for a
> bridge-deck contractor, they kept comparing concrete to sugar cubes,
> i.e. porous and easily damaged by water. If you want to keep an
> attractive surface under freeze-thaw conditions, you have to seal
> those pores.
>
> -Jason

Around here it rains a lot. Most of the year. And concrete seems to
slowly dissolve just like a sugar cube would. When I lived in Las
Vegas, you would find 50 year old concrete that looked as clean and
solid as they day it was poured. Very little rain, dry compact
foundations so it doesn't settle - the stuff lasts forever.


Posted by Joseph Meehan on May 2, 2007, 7:56 am


Ook wrote:
> We finally got out driveway finished! Woohoo! soo...I'm looking for
> info on coating it. What kinds of coatings are available? I'm mostly
> interesting in prolonging the life of the driveway. I've seen concrete
> here partially exposed to the rain, and the part exposed to the rain
> eventually erodes. I'd like to prevent that if possible.
>
> How long after pouring the concrete do I have to wait before coating
> it? I've not found a lot of information on this subject, any good
> sites or resources that you would recommend?

I would not bother with anything unless you live in a snow area where
salt can be a problem. If that is the case I would wait until fall and then
use a water repellent type product to keep the salt out of the concrete.
Salt is most damaging to fresh concrete so you are lucky yours will have
time to cure well before winter. Sealers can help.

--
Joseph Meehan

Dia 's Muire duit




Page 2 of 3       < 1 2 3 > last >>
Similar ThreadsPosted
slurry coat driveway June 28, 2008, 12:26 pm
Concrete Driveway August 2, 2005, 10:03 pm
new concrete driveway April 24, 2007, 1:50 pm
Stamped concrete driveway August 5, 2005, 5:07 pm
Concrete driveway sealer? June 27, 2007, 3:40 pm
Sealing concrete driveway March 1, 2006, 10:40 pm
New driveway - how long to keep concrete wet? March 18, 2007, 5:57 pm
How to make a concrete driveway last? March 19, 2007, 6:19 pm
Concrete Driveway Sealing September 27, 2007, 10:23 pm
driveway needs buildup section of concrete August 8, 2005, 11:56 pm

Contact Us | Privacy Policy

XML SitemapXML Sitemap