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Where's the spam from Mark Lloyd 03-10-2008
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Posted by Mark Lloyd on March 10, 2008, 6:05 pm
On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 16:22:02 -0500, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:

>On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 13:33:01 -0500, Mark Lloyd
>
>>
>>While reading this newsgroup, I looked at the first message in each
>>thread (there were 54 threads containing new messages).
>>
>>Of those 30 of them were spam, 100% of these came from Google Groups.
>>There were 24 non-spam threads, 15 of those (63%) did not come from
>>Google Groups.
>
>I think google as a whole, is responsible for at least half the spam
>on the net. When I stopped surfing with google and was careful not to
>be logged onto a google affilliated company (like aol) my email spam
>dropped by more than 50% ... in spite of the fact that I use my real
>Email address everywhere.
>If you see a google logo on your screen when you are surfing, you will
>get spam about everything you search on.
>Turning off cookies made my spam drop another 50% or more
>

I never enable cookies or scripts when on a Google website.

>If I am getting spam from my usenet posts it is a very small number
--
Mark Lloyd
http://notstupid.laughingsquid.com

"So far as I can remember, there is not one word
in the Gospels in praise of intelligence."
--Bertrand Russell

Posted by RicodJour on March 11, 2008, 10:36 am
On Mar 11, 4:36 am, letter...@invalid.com wrote:
>
> What gets me, is that I have never heard anyone who reads the spam.
> So what's the point of posting it in the first place?

In normal advertising and sales circles, a direct salesman facing a
customer might get a 1 in 4 or 1 in 10 return, a direct mail marketer
might get 1 in 100 or 1 in 1000, a spammer might get 1 in 10, 000.
Since a spammer's costs are essentially zero per message it makes
sense for them.

R

Posted by BobK207 on March 11, 2008, 12:28 pm
> On Mar 11, 4:36 am, letter...@invalid.com wrote:
>
>
>
> > What gets me, is that I have never heard anyone who reads the spam.
> > So what's the point of posting it in the first place?
>
> In normal advertising and sales circles, a direct salesman facing a
> customer might get a 1 in 4 or 1 in 10 return, a direct mail marketer
> might get 1 in 100 or 1 in 1000, a spammer might get 1 in 10, 000.
> Since a spammer's costs are essentially zero per message it makes
> sense for them.
>
> R

Unfortunately R's correct about "spammer arithmetic" :(

their costs are so low that even a few hits are worth it......just
like junk snail mail.

If email providers charged for email (let say over some reasonable per
day) spam "might" be reduced.

Few or low cost resources tend to be over consumed.

cheers
Bob

Posted by Clot on March 11, 2008, 8:18 pm
BobK207 wrote:
>> On Mar 11, 4:36 am, letter...@invalid.com wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> What gets me, is that I have never heard anyone who reads the spam.
>>> So what's the point of posting it in the first place?
>>
>> In normal advertising and sales circles, a direct salesman facing a
>> customer might get a 1 in 4 or 1 in 10 return, a direct mail marketer
>> might get 1 in 100 or 1 in 1000, a spammer might get 1 in 10, 000.
>> Since a spammer's costs are essentially zero per message it makes
>> sense for them.
>>
>> R
>
> Unfortunately R's correct about "spammer arithmetic" :(
>
> their costs are so low that even a few hits are worth it......just
> like junk snail mail.
>
> If email providers charged for email (let say over some reasonable per
> day) spam "might" be reduced.
>
> Few or low cost resources tend to be over consumed.


Sadly, I have to concur. They're latching on to an equivalent elsewhere, as
well. :(



Posted by Bert Byfield on March 11, 2008, 10:36 am
> What gets me, is that I have never heard anyone who reads the spam.
> So what's the point of posting it in the first place?

There *must* be some people who respond. If no one responded, the
spammers would give up.





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