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Why both grout and mortar? GreatArtist 11-22-2006
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Posted by GreatArtist on November 22, 2006, 10:06 am


Joseph Meehan wrote:
>Why do you want to avoid grout. Do you think you will save some money?
> It will not be much.

Well I had to remove 4 tiles a few inches above the kitchen sink to get
at the pipes behind the faucet. Then I used thinset mortar to put them
back. So it's only 4 tiles and I think they pretty much stay dry all
the time. The reason I don't want to use grout is because it has those
glass particles that can injure your lungs and eyes. The thinset mortar
also has the same glass particles and it was an ordeal going through
the safety precautions to avoid hurting myself.


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Posted by Robert Allison on November 22, 2006, 10:48 am


GreatArtist wrote:

> Joseph Meehan wrote:
>
>>Why do you want to avoid grout. Do you think you will save some money?
>>It will not be much.
>
>
> Well I had to remove 4 tiles a few inches above the kitchen sink to get
> at the pipes behind the faucet. Then I used thinset mortar to put them
> back. So it's only 4 tiles and I think they pretty much stay dry all
> the time. The reason I don't want to use grout is because it has those
> glass particles that can injure your lungs and eyes. The thinset mortar
> also has the same glass particles and it was an ordeal going through
> the safety precautions to avoid hurting myself.
>

You are confusing silica with glass. There is a danger from
silica dust if you inhale enough of it. Working with enough
grout for 4 tiles is not going to come close to causing any
damage to you. It is somewhat like asbestos. It is dangerous
to be exposed to it in large quantities or for long periods.

Silica is one of the most common minerals on earth. Wear a
dust mask and don't worry about it.

--
Robert Allison        
Rimshot, Inc.
Georgetown, TX

Posted by on November 22, 2006, 11:47 am



GreatArtist wrote:
> Joseph Meehan wrote:
> >Why do you want to avoid grout. Do you think you will save some money?
> > It will not be much.
>
> Well I had to remove 4 tiles a few inches above the kitchen sink to get
> at the pipes behind the faucet. Then I used thinset mortar to put them
> back. So it's only 4 tiles and I think they pretty much stay dry all
> the time. The reason I don't want to use grout is because it has those
> glass particles that can injure your lungs and eyes. The thinset mortar
> also has the same glass particles and it was an ordeal going through
> the safety precautions to avoid hurting myself.


Are you taking a bag of the stuff dry and throwing it around the
kitchen? Or are you doing what any normal person would do, which is
mix up a pint of thinset or grout outside the house and then just use
it? Used in any reasonable fashion for a simple repair, this stuff is
perfectly safe.


Posted by Brian on November 22, 2006, 12:03 pm



GreatArtist wrote:
> Joseph Meehan wrote:
> >Why do you want to avoid grout. Do you think you will save some money?
> > It will not be much.
>
> Well I had to remove 4 tiles a few inches above the kitchen sink to get
> at the pipes behind the faucet. Then I used thinset mortar to put them
> back. So it's only 4 tiles and I think they pretty much stay dry all
> the time. The reason I don't want to use grout is because it has those
> glass particles that can injure your lungs and eyes. The thinset mortar
> also has the same glass particles and it was an ordeal going through
> the safety precautions to avoid hurting myself.

In a paste, the risks are less. Like someone else said, wear a mask and
don't worry about it. If you are concerned about your eyes, wear
googles. I've done a lot of tile and don't have any silica related
problems.


Posted by Oren on November 22, 2006, 1:45 pm


wrote:

>Joseph Meehan wrote:
>>Why do you want to avoid grout. Do you think you will save some money?
>> It will not be much.
>
>Well I had to remove 4 tiles a few inches above the kitchen sink to get
>at the pipes behind the faucet. Then I used thinset mortar to put them
>back. So it's only 4 tiles and I think they pretty much stay dry all
>the time. The reason I don't want to use grout is because it has those
>glass particles that can injure your lungs and eyes. The thinset mortar
>also has the same glass particles and it was an ordeal going through
>the safety precautions to avoid hurting myself.

My trash man would not take a partial bag of cement one day. He
explained that the lime caused an eye injury to an employee and it is
now company policy (re-bagged and sent out).

I replaced a couple of tiles in my pool this year at the water line. I
found a small pale of grout/mortar combination (orange store). It is
made for curing under water. I did go ahead and drain water below the
tile as I was not that trusting. This stuff worked well... adhered
well and looks like the same as the rest of the tile grout lines.

You won't find it in color choices, though.


--
Oren

"Well, it doesn't happen all the time, but when it happens, it happens
constantly."

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