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Posted by on November 22, 2006, 3:35 pm
Oren wrote:
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> My trash man would not take a partial bag of cement one day. He
> explained that the lime caused an eye injury to an employee and it is
> now company policy (re-bagged and sent out).
>
O:
Well, the garbage man probably got the powder in his eye & couldn't
wash it out right away, being on his route. It's different to be at
home,
with clean water readily available for eye-rinsing.
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Posted by Oren on November 22, 2006, 4:33 pm
On 22 Nov 2006 12:35:20 -0800, autobus_prime@yahoo.com wrote:
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>Oren wrote:
>>
>> My trash man would not take a partial bag of cement one day. He
>> explained that the lime caused an eye injury to an employee and it is
>> now company policy (re-bagged and sent out).
>>
>
>O:
>
>Well, the garbage man probably got the powder in his eye & couldn't
>wash it out right away, being on his route. It's different to be at
>home,
>with clean water readily available for eye-rinsing.
Probably.
--
Oren
"Well, it doesn't happen all the time, but when it happens, it happens
constantly."
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Posted by Joseph Meehan on November 22, 2006, 2:24 pm
GreatArtist wrote:
> Joseph Meehan wrote:
>> Why do you want to avoid grout. Do you think you will save some
>> money? It will not be much.
>
> Well I had to remove 4 tiles a few inches above the kitchen sink to
> get at the pipes behind the faucet. Then I used thinset mortar to put
> them back. So it's only 4 tiles and I think they pretty much stay dry
> all the time. The reason I don't want to use grout is because it has
> those glass particles that can injure your lungs and eyes. The
> thinset mortar also has the same glass particles and it was an ordeal
> going through the safety precautions to avoid hurting myself.
Frankly I would want to use something as close as possible to the
original grout. You want to match the existing grout as close as possible
and I really don't think they used mortar.
BTW I agree with the others on the safety issue.
--
Joseph Meehan
Dia 's Muire duit
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Posted by RicodJour on November 22, 2006, 10:34 am
GreatArtist wrote:
> Why do you have to lay down tiles with mortar and then put grout
> between the tiles?
To minimize installation problems.
> Why can't you just put mortar between the tiles?
There are products that will allow you to attempt this. Please note
the word attempt.
> Is grout more waterproof than mortar?
Depends on the grout, on the mortar you're comparing it to, and on the
additives in each. In general, grout is designed to be more
waterproof, so yes.
> Can you use mortar as a substitute for grout and then put a penetrating
> sealant on top of the mortar?
That would help.
One step applications work, sometimes, but it's not necessarily the
best way to go.
http://www.johnbridge.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=39382&page=1&pp=15
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Posted by Richard J Kinch on November 23, 2006, 1:03 am
GreatArtist writes:
> Why do you have to lay down tiles with mortar and then put grout
> between the tiles?
> Why can't you just put mortar between the tiles?
> Is grout more waterproof than mortar?
Cementitious mortar and grout are both portland cement based, with sand
aggregate for both (in the case of sanded grout).
In a primitive style, they are one and the same.
Today, mortar would typically be made from the cheapest, gray portland
cement.
Grout would be made from more costly white portland cement, to yield a
white color or, with tinting, various colors.
Mortar for marble or other light porous stone would be more like the
white grout, to avoid bleeding a gray color into the stone.
There are various additives for accelerating/retarding the set,
plasticity, polymer modification, water repellancy, etc. Some of these
properties are desirable for mortar or grout or both.
But sure, in the olden days, you had one primitive cement and the same
stuff was used for both bedding and grouting.
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