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Willow trees around pond cajunpaisley 09-10-2007
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Posted by cajunpaisley on September 10, 2007, 9:55 am
Located in south Louisiana, near Baton Rouge. We have a small pond.
There are small willow trees all around the perimeter. They are
unruly. They're not huge, the largest trunk is about as big around as
a forearm. I'm not sure about the best way to remove them...We have a
tractor, a good sized Massey Ferguson.
We are wondering if the best way to remove them is to don waders and
get in the water and saw underwater (and what's the best tool for
this?) Or attach a chain to them and pull them out with the tractor
(seems like this would damage the bank, leaving jagged,gaping holes)
or a combination of both? This may not be the best group for this
question, if anyone has any suggestions..thanks in advance. I've
googled, but maybe my search terms were not clear enough..
FWIW..I'm not exactly a tree hugger, but by no means am I trying to
just pillage and make a sterile, treeless pond bank..I'm thinking the
willows are hogging water and space that would benefit the cypress
trees that are so quintessentially cajun...
Thanks.
cajunpaisley


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Posted by Toller on September 10, 2007, 10:01 am

> Located in south Louisiana, near Baton Rouge. We have a small pond.
> There are small willow trees all around the perimeter. They are
> unruly. They're not huge, the largest trunk is about as big around as
> a forearm. I'm not sure about the best way to remove them...We have a
> tractor, a good sized Massey Ferguson.
> We are wondering if the best way to remove them is to don waders and
> get in the water and saw underwater (and what's the best tool for
> this?) Or attach a chain to them and pull them out with the tractor
> (seems like this would damage the bank, leaving jagged,gaping holes)
> or a combination of both? This may not be the best group for this
> question, if anyone has any suggestions..thanks in advance. I've
> googled, but maybe my search terms were not clear enough..
> FWIW..I'm not exactly a tree hugger, but by no means am I trying to
> just pillage and make a sterile, treeless pond bank..I'm thinking the
> willows are hogging water and space that would benefit the cypress
> trees that are so quintessentially cajun...
> Thanks.
> cajunpaisley
>
Herbicide to kill them; then cut them down?



Posted by Don Phillipson on September 10, 2007, 10:18 am

> Located in south Louisiana, near Baton Rouge. We have a small pond.
> There are small willow trees all around the perimeter. They are
> unruly. They're not huge, the largest trunk is about as big around as
> a forearm. I'm not sure about the best way to remove them...We have a
> tractor, a good sized Massey Ferguson.
> We are wondering if the best way to remove them is to don waders and
> get in the water and saw underwater (and what's the best tool for
> this?) Or attach a chain to them and pull them out with the tractor
> (seems like this would damage the bank, leaving jagged,gaping holes)
> or a combination of both? This may not be the best group for this

You can probably get advice from the state Ag. Dept. Extension
department or else at the state univ. E.g.
1. Trees that grow on land can be killed by ring-barking them
(removing a sleeve of bark and cambium one inch deep all
round the trunk.) It may take them a year to die, but when
dead they dry out (relatively) thus are lighter in weight,
therefore safer to fell. Ring-barking avoids using poison of any
type --- but I don't know how well it works for trees standing
in water.

2. Because yours is a small pond, you might be able to
pull them out across the whole width of the pond. (Your
tractor can pull just as hard on a 300-ft. cable as it can
on a 10-ft. cable.) This would preserve the bank -- but I do
not know if this is feasible for willows (cf. roots) or whether
it does more harm to the pond structure than pulling towards the
nearer bank. A limnologist ought to be able to tell you, if you
can tell him how deep the pond is.
--
Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)



Posted by Lar on September 10, 2007, 10:30 am
cajunpaisley wrote:
> Located in south Louisiana, near Baton Rouge. We have a small pond.
> There are small willow trees all around the perimeter. They are
> unruly. They're not huge, the largest trunk is about as big around as
> a forearm. I'm not sure about the best way to remove them...We have a
> tractor, a good sized Massey Ferguson.
> We are wondering if the best way to remove them is to don waders and
> get in the water and saw underwater (and what's the best tool for
> this?) Or attach a chain to them and pull them out with the tractor
> (seems like this would damage the bank, leaving jagged,gaping holes)
> or a combination of both? This may not be the best group for this
> question, if anyone has any suggestions..thanks in advance. I've
> googled, but maybe my search terms were not clear enough..
> FWIW..I'm not exactly a tree hugger, but by no means am I trying to
> just pillage and make a sterile, treeless pond bank..I'm thinking the
> willows are hogging water and space that would benefit the cypress
> trees that are so quintessentially cajun...
> Thanks.
> cajunpaisley
>

I know someone who had success with what you are describing by cutting
the trees then paint a weed killer on the fresh cut stumps. I am not
sure how long the stumps were left too die but they were removed within
the year.

Lar

Posted by Phisherman on September 10, 2007, 11:17 am
On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 13:55:11 -0000, cajunpaisley

>Located in south Louisiana, near Baton Rouge. We have a small pond.
>There are small willow trees all around the perimeter. They are
>unruly. They're not huge, the largest trunk is about as big around as
>a forearm. I'm not sure about the best way to remove them...We have a
>tractor, a good sized Massey Ferguson.
>We are wondering if the best way to remove them is to don waders and
>get in the water and saw underwater (and what's the best tool for
>this?) Or attach a chain to them and pull them out with the tractor
>(seems like this would damage the bank, leaving jagged,gaping holes)
>or a combination of both? This may not be the best group for this
>question, if anyone has any suggestions..thanks in advance. I've
>googled, but maybe my search terms were not clear enough..
>FWIW..I'm not exactly a tree hugger, but by no means am I trying to
>just pillage and make a sterile, treeless pond bank..I'm thinking the
>willows are hogging water and space that would benefit the cypress
>trees that are so quintessentially cajun...
>Thanks.
>cajunpaisley


Pulling out the trees may well damage the pond bank. Maybe you can
cut them down and leave the roots to temporarily hold the bank. As
the roots decay, other vegetation will take over and hold the bank. I
have a pond and use grasses, rush, etc to hold the bank--it works well
and you can keep them trimmed. Willows easily sprout from branches
and roots so you will be cutting these back for 2-3 years.

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