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Posted by MiamiCuse on April 9, 2008, 11:04 pm
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>> > On Apr 7, 2:16 pm, nmbexc...@hotmail.com wrote:
>> >> I have hired a team of electrician (3 of them) to do some re-wiring of
>> >> the house I am working on. They are 50% completion and I have been
>> >> furnishing all the materials.
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>> >> Something that bothers me.
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>> >> I hooked up a fridge and told them to help themselves, I asked them
>> >> what they like and everyone seems to like Arizona ice tea or
>> >> Gatorade. So I stock the fridge full with those drinks.
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>> >> Problem, at the end of the day I go around and between the three of
>> >> them it is not unusual that I found 15 or more drink bottles. They
>> >> drink a lot? Noooooo... most of those are 80% full. So they worked
>> >> in the kitchen, went and got a drink, took three sips, leave it
>> >> sitting on a half framed wall, 30 minutes later he moves up into the
>> >> attic to pull some wire, goes to the fridge and pull out a new cold
>> >> drink, carries it into the attic, took three sips and sat it down in
>> >> the attic...so at the end of the day they went through half a dozen
>> >> 16oz drinks but only drank a little out of each.
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>> >> Same thing with materials. I got them a box of EMT couplings, 50 of
>> >> them, three days later they needed more, ok another 50, then another
>> >> 50, I started to wonder, that is 150 EMT couplings, they have not laid
>> >> that much pipes. I walked around and round up everything and yes I
>> >> have 3 boxes of couplings, almost 90% full in each of them, so they
>> >> forgot where they left something and ordered new. Same thing with
>> >> wire nuts, connectors, MC connectors, reducing washers, switch plates,
>> >> outlets etc...just seemed to be misplaced.
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>> >> Now I am not worried too much about these materials, compared to the
>> >> labor it's insignificant, but is that an indication that they may be
>> >> sloppy and absent minded in the wiring as well?
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>> > Surfeit does not make people happy. It makes them wasteful. Bob
>> > Allison has it right with the big jug of Gatorade. Give them three
>> > plastic cups and use a Sharpie marker to put their initials on each
>> > cup. It's a little late in the game to switch, and you might be
>> > shooting yourself in the foot by doing so, so maybe you should just
>> > stock that fridge with three or four bottles per man.
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>> > Electricians should be able to estimate their material needs to within
>> > 10%. You should have done a takeoff before starting the job and had
>> > the estimated amount of materials on the job with a bit over for the
>> > unforeseen. In reality, you're probably not saving much money at all
>> > by buying the materials. The electricians will have an account with
>> > their local supply house and will pay no more than you pay at a big
>> > box store, probably less, and they'll get the same or better
>> > materials.
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>> > Those additional materials will start disappearing. Ask them for a
>> > list of what they'll need to finish the job and then give them that
>> > and only that. You're living at the house, right? So if they run out
>> > they can just ask you for additional.
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>> No I am not living at the house. No way will I live on a construction
>> site
>> anymore!
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>> I will move in when it's habitable.
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> Didn't know you'd moved out - when did that happen? The rest of the
> advice still goes, and additional emphasis on the extra material
> walking.
>
> R
I never moved in. I bought the house and have been working on it on and
off, and will move in when it gets done one day.
MC
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