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Yard Light dont turn on in Cold weather alvinamorey 10-12-2007
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Posted by on October 12, 2007, 6:07 pm
I have a mercury vapor (farm) yard light on a pole.
It always works fine in warm weather, but once the temperature gets
below about 40deg., it dont always turn on. However if I flip the
circuit breaker off and back on, the light works. Last winter it
started doing this most irritating thing. I bought a new bulb
thinking the bulb was failing. Before I got the bulb replaced, the
weather warmed up and it has worked non-stop all spring and summer, so
I never replaced the bulb. Now the weather is getting cool and it's
once again not working every night, until I flip the breaker. Last
night we barely had frost and the light would not come on till I
flipped the breaker. What the heck is causing this? I know there are
only 3 parts, the bulb, ballast, and sensor. But which would be
affected by temperature?


Posted by willshak on October 12, 2007, 6:19 pm
on 10/12/2007 6:07 PM alvinamorey@notmail.com said the following:
> I have a mercury vapor (farm) yard light on a pole.
> It always works fine in warm weather, but once the temperature gets
> below about 40deg., it dont always turn on. However if I flip the
> circuit breaker off and back on, the light works. Last winter it
> started doing this most irritating thing. I bought a new bulb
> thinking the bulb was failing. Before I got the bulb replaced, the
> weather warmed up and it has worked non-stop all spring and summer, so
> I never replaced the bulb. Now the weather is getting cool and it's
> once again not working every night, until I flip the breaker. Last
> night we barely had frost and the light would not come on till I
> flipped the breaker. What the heck is causing this? I know there are
> only 3 parts, the bulb, ballast, and sensor. But which would be
> affected by temperature?
>
>
The MV lamp itself.
Require a maximum warm-up period of five to seven minutes before giving
full light output, depending on lamp type, ballast and ambient
temperature. They can be used only where this delay is acceptable
http://tristate.apogee.net/lite/blthmv.asp

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Bill
In Hamptonburgh, NY
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Posted by The Daring Dufas on October 12, 2007, 6:51 pm
alvinamorey@notmail.com wrote:
> I have a mercury vapor (farm) yard light on a pole.
> It always works fine in warm weather, but once the temperature gets
> below about 40deg., it dont always turn on. However if I flip the
> circuit breaker off and back on, the light works. Last winter it
> started doing this most irritating thing. I bought a new bulb
> thinking the bulb was failing. Before I got the bulb replaced, the
> weather warmed up and it has worked non-stop all spring and summer, so
> I never replaced the bulb. Now the weather is getting cool and it's
> once again not working every night, until I flip the breaker. Last
> night we barely had frost and the light would not come on till I
> flipped the breaker. What the heck is causing this? I know there are
> only 3 parts, the bulb, ballast, and sensor. But which would be
> affected by temperature?
>

You could have a bad or wrong value capacitor.
Here's a link to a PDF file on troubleshooting HID fixtures:

http://tinyurl.com/29sn2h

TDD


Posted by Pop` on October 12, 2007, 6:59 pm
alvinamorey@notmail.com wrote:
> I have a mercury vapor (farm) yard light on a pole.
> It always works fine in warm weather, but once the temperature gets
> below about 40deg., it dont always turn on. However if I flip the
> circuit breaker off and back on, the light works. Last winter it
> started doing this most irritating thing. I bought a new bulb
> thinking the bulb was failing. Before I got the bulb replaced, the
> weather warmed up and it has worked non-stop all spring and summer, so
> I never replaced the bulb. Now the weather is getting cool and it's
> once again not working every night, until I flip the breaker. Last
> night we barely had frost and the light would not come on till I
> flipped the breaker. What the heck is causing this? I know there are
> only 3 parts, the bulb, ballast, and sensor. But which would be
> affected by temperature?

It sounds like the cktry isn't completely turning it off, or there is a
ground issue.
Try putting it on a switch; don't use the breaker to turn it off and on.
Either that, or replace it. REgardless of the 7 minute spec, etc., ours
takes about 3 minutes to start its little blue glare, then up to 15 minutes
in the cold before it comes on to full brightness, esp on sub zero days.



Posted by on October 12, 2007, 9:30 pm
wrote:

>alvinamorey@notmail.com wrote:
>> I have a mercury vapor (farm) yard light on a pole.
>> It always works fine in warm weather, but once the temperature gets
>> below about 40deg., it dont always turn on. However if I flip the
>> circuit breaker off and back on, the light works. Last winter it
>> started doing this most irritating thing. I bought a new bulb
>> thinking the bulb was failing. Before I got the bulb replaced, the
>> weather warmed up and it has worked non-stop all spring and summer, so
>> I never replaced the bulb. Now the weather is getting cool and it's
>> once again not working every night, until I flip the breaker. Last
>> night we barely had frost and the light would not come on till I
>> flipped the breaker. What the heck is causing this? I know there are
>> only 3 parts, the bulb, ballast, and sensor. But which would be
>> affected by temperature?
>
> It sounds like the cktry isn't completely turning it off, or there is a
>ground issue.
>Try putting it on a switch; don't use the breaker to turn it off and on.
>Either that, or replace it. REgardless of the 7 minute spec, etc., ours
>takes about 3 minutes to start its little blue glare, then up to 15 minutes
>in the cold before it comes on to full brightness, esp on sub zero days.
>
This is a farm, where the main shutoff for the whole farm is on a
pole. I have an outdoor box next to that main, where there are
secondary mains for the house, barn, and another shed (all breakers).
In that same box, there is a 15A breaker dedicated to that light. It
does shut off during the day. I doubt it's a ground issue, and
question why a ground would affect anything as far as how it operates.
There is simply a piece of UF cable going up the (same) pole to the
light. Why should I have a switch when the breaker is dedicated to
that light?

These lights seem to be very touchy. If I replace it, I might get a
Sodium Vapor instead. The neighbors have them, and they seem to be
less troublesome. I dont like the yellowish color of their light
though.

Thanks

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