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a/c problem CorollaBlue 08-22-2006
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Posted by on August 22, 2006, 5:21 pm
A YORK A/C, Heater 4 ton 13 SEER, purchased and installed in 2003, MDL#

HIRDO485S06A, has a serious problem.

When started it put out a temperature in the low sixties range (62 )
service tech reported. In the first vent in the house the temperature
is also in the low sixties. However after he left the temperature in
the house, vent goes into the 70 + area. The house itself takes hours
to drop the temperature down to 80. In fact on a really hot 100 + day
it never got below 84.

Their response was that the "ducts" are probably plugged up. After that
we checked all the in and out vents and they are all about the same
out's and in's as it has always been, regarding air flow.

My opinion is that the compressor starts out at a reasonable
temperature but the longer it operates the higher the out put
temperature. Trying to get the tech out on a hot day while it is in
this condition has been ignored (there is a 5 year warranty for all
work and services from the local vender).

I intend to measure the compressor out put temperature and the
temperature
inside the house vents to determine if they both change dramatically,
as I suspect they will.

My question is simply, what is the normal range of the output
temperature of
this particular York A/C, about 5 to 10 minutes and after several hours
of
operation on a 100 + day.


Posted by on August 22, 2006, 5:27 pm

CorollaB...@gmail.com wrote:
> A YORK A/C, Heater 4 ton 13 SEER, purchased and installed in 2003, MDL#
>
> HIRDO485S06A, has a serious problem.
>
> When started it put out a temperature in the low sixties range (62 )
> service tech reported. In the first vent in the house the temperature
> is also in the low sixties. However after he left the temperature in
> the house, vent goes into the 70 + area. The house itself takes hours
> to drop the temperature down to 80. In fact on a really hot 100 + day
> it never got below 84.
>
> Their response was that the "ducts" are probably plugged up. After that
> we checked all the in and out vents and they are all about the same
> out's and in's as it has always been, regarding air flow.
>
> My opinion is that the compressor starts out at a reasonable
> temperature but the longer it operates the higher the out put
> temperature. Trying to get the tech out on a hot day while it is in
> this condition has been ignored (there is a 5 year warranty for all
> work and services from the local vender).
>
> I intend to measure the compressor out put temperature and the
> temperature
> inside the house vents to determine if they both change dramatically,
> as I suspect they will.
>
> My question is simply, what is the normal range of the output
> temperature of
> this particular York A/C, about 5 to 10 minutes and after several hours
> of
> operation on a 100 + day.

measure the temperature of the air at the return grille...the big
grille that pulls in air.... and at the supply vents that blow
out....there should be 18 degrees difference...give or take a couple of
degrees.... 18-20 is ideal and it should hold this difference no matter
what. You had a dumbass at your house...not a technician....

If they installed it tell them they need to fix it..........


Posted by Stormin Mormon on August 22, 2006, 9:44 pm
As Corny the AC technician mentions,t he cold air blowing out should
be 20 degrees or so colder than the warm air returning to the furnace.

I can think of at least a couple reasons this might occur, and all the
solutions involve a repairman working on the system.

--

Christopher A. Young
You can't shout down a troll.
You have to starve them.
.

A YORK A/C, Heater 4 ton 13 SEER, purchased and installed in 2003,
MDL#

HIRDO485S06A, has a serious problem.

When started it put out a temperature in the low sixties range (62 )
service tech reported. In the first vent in the house the temperature
is also in the low sixties. However after he left the temperature in
the house, vent goes into the 70 + area. The house itself takes hours
to drop the temperature down to 80. In fact on a really hot 100 + day
it never got below 84.

Their response was that the "ducts" are probably plugged up. After
that
we checked all the in and out vents and they are all about the same
out's and in's as it has always been, regarding air flow.

My opinion is that the compressor starts out at a reasonable
temperature but the longer it operates the higher the out put
temperature. Trying to get the tech out on a hot day while it is in
this condition has been ignored (there is a 5 year warranty for all
work and services from the local vender).

I intend to measure the compressor out put temperature and the
temperature
inside the house vents to determine if they both change dramatically,
as I suspect they will.

My question is simply, what is the normal range of the output
temperature of
this particular York A/C, about 5 to 10 minutes and after several
hours
of
operation on a 100 + day.



Posted by on August 23, 2006, 12:40 am
What might those couple of reasons be? I need some ideas before I
contact a repairman again.


Stormin Mormon wrote:
> As Corny the AC technician mentions,t he cold air blowing out should
> be 20 degrees or so colder than the warm air returning to the furnace.
>
> I can think of at least a couple reasons this might occur, and all the
> solutions involve a repairman working on the system.
>
> --
>
> Christopher A. Young
> You can't shout down a troll.
> You have to starve them.
> .
>
> A YORK A/C, Heater 4 ton 13 SEER, purchased and installed in 2003,
> MDL#
>
> HIRDO485S06A, has a serious problem.
>
> When started it put out a temperature in the low sixties range (62 )
> service tech reported. In the first vent in the house the temperature
> is also in the low sixties. However after he left the temperature in
> the house, vent goes into the 70 + area. The house itself takes hours
> to drop the temperature down to 80. In fact on a really hot 100 + day
> it never got below 84.
>
> Their response was that the "ducts" are probably plugged up. After
> that
> we checked all the in and out vents and they are all about the same
> out's and in's as it has always been, regarding air flow.
>
> My opinion is that the compressor starts out at a reasonable
> temperature but the longer it operates the higher the out put
> temperature. Trying to get the tech out on a hot day while it is in
> this condition has been ignored (there is a 5 year warranty for all
> work and services from the local vender).
>
> I intend to measure the compressor out put temperature and the
> temperature
> inside the house vents to determine if they both change dramatically,
> as I suspect they will.
>
> My question is simply, what is the normal range of the output
> temperature of
> this particular York A/C, about 5 to 10 minutes and after several
> hours
> of
> operation on a 100 + day.


Posted by Stormin Mormon on August 23, 2006, 5:12 pm
Dirty condensor
Clog in the freon system some where (often filter drier, or orifice or
TXV)
Dirty evaporator
Low freon

If the compressor is getting too hot, it's very likely dirty
condensor.

--

Christopher A. Young
You can't shout down a troll.
You have to starve them.
.

What might those couple of reasons be? I need some ideas before I
contact a repairman again.


Stormin Mormon wrote:
> As Corny the AC technician mentions,t he cold air blowing out should
> be 20 degrees or so colder than the warm air returning to the
furnace.
>
> I can think of at least a couple reasons this might occur, and all
the
> solutions involve a repairman working on the system.
>
> --
>
> Christopher A. Young
> You can't shout down a troll.
> You have to starve them.
> .
>
> A YORK A/C, Heater 4 ton 13 SEER, purchased and installed in 2003,
> MDL#
>
> HIRDO485S06A, has a serious problem.
>
> When started it put out a temperature in the low sixties range (62 )
> service tech reported. In the first vent in the house the
temperature
> is also in the low sixties. However after he left the temperature
in
> the house, vent goes into the 70 + area. The house itself takes
hours
> to drop the temperature down to 80. In fact on a really hot 100 +
day
> it never got below 84.
>
> Their response was that the "ducts" are probably plugged up. After
> that
> we checked all the in and out vents and they are all about the same
> out's and in's as it has always been, regarding air flow.
>
> My opinion is that the compressor starts out at a reasonable
> temperature but the longer it operates the higher the out put
> temperature. Trying to get the tech out on a hot day while it is in
> this condition has been ignored (there is a 5 year warranty for all
> work and services from the local vender).
>
> I intend to measure the compressor out put temperature and the
> temperature
> inside the house vents to determine if they both change
dramatically,
> as I suspect they will.
>
> My question is simply, what is the normal range of the output
> temperature of
> this particular York A/C, about 5 to 10 minutes and after several
> hours
> of
> operation on a 100 + day.



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