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adhesives - 'sticking down' ceramic tile TO existing linoleum? "newtype" stuff? dave 07-19-2005
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Posted by dave on July 19, 2005, 12:36 pm


what type of adhesive is 'ordinarily' used these days to 'stick down'
ceramic tile on TOP of linoleum? this is in a small residential kitchen
and front hallway, each of those areas roughly 55 sq feet....

I already tested all over (both areas) with a toilet plunger, and the
linoleum is "stuck down GOOD'n'TIGHT" everywhere to the slab, central
areas included, wall TO wall, *NOT* just along the edges...

is the adhesive I'm seeking something similar to "liquid nails
construction adhesive" or something? I'd like it to be spreadable with a
normal tile adhesive "square notched" trowel....

also, is there some type of 'linoleum softener' or 'pre-primer'
involved? plan is to grout -between- the tiles 'in the normal manner'
afterward...is special grout involved too? or just using some type of
'additive' to everyday normal grout, or?

thanks for smartening me up some,

toolie


Posted by Charles Spitzer on July 19, 2005, 10:09 am



> what type of adhesive is 'ordinarily' used these days to 'stick down'
> ceramic tile on TOP of linoleum? this is in a small residential kitchen
> and front hallway, each of those areas roughly 55 sq feet....
>
> I already tested all over (both areas) with a toilet plunger, and the
> linoleum is "stuck down GOOD'n'TIGHT" everywhere to the slab, central
> areas included, wall TO wall, *NOT* just along the edges...
>
> is the adhesive I'm seeking something similar to "liquid nails
> construction adhesive" or something? I'd like it to be spreadable with a
> normal tile adhesive "square notched" trowel....
>
> also, is there some type of 'linoleum softener' or 'pre-primer' involved?
> plan is to grout -between- the tiles 'in the normal manner' afterward...is
> special grout involved too? or just using some type of 'additive' to
> everyday normal grout, or?
>
> thanks for smartening me up some,
>
> toolie

acrylic modified thinset. you don't have to do anything to the linoleum, and
you use normal grout. the linoleum will act as an antifracture barrier.




Posted by G Henslee on July 19, 2005, 10:10 am


dave wrote:
> what type of adhesive is 'ordinarily' used these days to 'stick down'
> ceramic tile on TOP of linoleum? this is in a small residential kitchen
> and front hallway, each of those areas roughly 55 sq feet....

Latex modified thinset.

>
> I already tested all over (both areas) with a toilet plunger, and the
> linoleum is "stuck down GOOD'n'TIGHT" everywhere to the slab, central
> areas included, wall TO wall, *NOT* just along the edges...

Good adhesion of the lino is a must. Youi should have problems with
this tile install if you use the modified t/s.


>
> also, is there some type of 'linoleum softener' or 'pre-primer'
> involved? plan is to grout -between- the tiles 'in the normal manner'
> afterward...is special grout involved too? or just using some type of
> 'additive' to everyday normal grout, or?

No 'special' grout required. Sanded grout for spaced jopints and
unsanded for tight joints.





Posted by G Henslee on July 19, 2005, 10:12 am


G Henslee wrote:
> dave wrote:
>
>> what type of adhesive is 'ordinarily' used these days to 'stick down'
>> ceramic tile on TOP of linoleum? this is in a small residential
>> kitchen and front hallway, each of those areas roughly 55 sq feet....
>
>
> Latex modified thinset.
>
>>
>> I already tested all over (both areas) with a toilet plunger, and the
>> linoleum is "stuck down GOOD'n'TIGHT" everywhere to the slab, central
>> areas included, wall TO wall, *NOT* just along the edges...
>
>
> Good adhesion of the lino is a must. Youi should have problems with
> this tile install if you use the modified t/s.
>
>
>>
>> also, is there some type of 'linoleum softener' or 'pre-primer'
>> involved? plan is to grout -between- the tiles 'in the normal manner'
>> afterward...is special grout involved too? or just using some type of
>> 'additive' to everyday normal grout, or?
>
>
> No 'special' grout required. Sanded grout for spaced jopints and
> unsanded for tight joints.
>
>
>

One more thing. If it's a 'cushion' type liono, it has to be removed.


Posted by Duane Bozarth on July 19, 2005, 12:27 pm


G Henslee wrote:
....
>
> One more thing. If it's a 'cushion' type liono, it has to be removed.

Also, if the floor isn't truly flat you need to make it so...many/most
old floors have some issues that could end up w/ pressure points that
could cause a failure...


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