alternative garage interior wall covering

Posted by benick on October 15, 2009, 12:49 am

> "jamesgangnc" wrote
> "John Grabowski" wrote:

>>> *Usually the drywall is required in a garage for fire resistance. When

>> Yes, I knew there was something about fire resistance involved. I was
>> hoping that wallboard on just the garage ceiling would satisfy that
>> requirement. Do you have to have wallboard on the garage walls as
>> well for fire resistance?

> James, the problem is none of us know where you are, so most 'code
> information' you have so far, is questionable. Even with your location,
> we may not have anyone here who's had to check that so knows your
> specifics. You'll note John above said *usually* and that's dead on. His
> advice for example doesnt match requirements where I am but probably
> matches much of the USA for the ceiling portion with above living space.
> They may not specifically say 'drywall' but that may be the only product
> in reasonably affordable cost that meets the specs.
> Usually you can call your county or city office and get a pretty easy
> answer for free. Sometimes they give you an email address and ask you to
> email it and they get back with you. Other times, you find they have some
> web site with a 'common question FAQ' and they tell you where it is (your
> question would be apt to be in there).
> There are several levels of codes to weed through. Here's my
> understanding of them if you live in the USA (not a given, cant tell)
> Federal codes. These generally apply mostly to public buildings.
> State codes: These tend to also deal alot with public buildings but have a
> good bit on private dwellings as well
> County codes: Not all have these it seems. All the ones i've seen dealt
> with private housing
> City codes: generally only applicable is you live inside the city lines.
> Mix and match set of private and public.
> Because you are asking a specific code question and we don't know where
> you reside, *none* of us can give you a definative answer.
> I can tell you a plywood ceiling is legal where *I* am and that's inside
> the living areas. I'm even allowed to insulate exterior attached garage
> walls then cover that with open holed peg board (insane but true as they
> havent written rules against it yet, just against the side that adjoins
> the house).

Your town may not have adopted any codes but I'll bet your insurance company
requires 5/8 Type X Firecode Sheetrock on the garage ceiling if there's
living space above it and on the wall between the house and attached
garage....If it were me I'ld do it for peace of mind....To cheap not
to...IMHO...Wood ceilings in your house is legal...Your not storing a hot
car full of gas amoung other gas filled toys and tools , paint thinner , oil
, ect. in there Some places require 5/8 Type X on kitchen ceilings if there
is living space above it , however.........

Posted by dadiOH on October 14, 2009, 9:24 am

jamesgangnc wrote:

> I'm building a garage with some living space above it. I'd like to
> insulate and cover the walls in the garage area as well. But I'd
> rather use something besides wallboard since it is so easily damaged.
> (See the funny but true earlier posting defintion of a table saw as a
> device for shooting lumber into the wall.) Are there any good
> alternatives beside 1/4" paneling? That won't break the bank.

Tileboard (the hardboard covered on one side with plastic, several solid
colors available) is cheap. Bead board maybe?

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Posted by DD_BobK on October 14, 2009, 11:57 am

> I'm building a garage with some living space above it. =A0I'd like to
> insulate and cover the walls in the garage area as well. =A0But I'd
> rather use something besides wallboard since it is so easily damaged.
> (See the funny but true earlier posting defintion of a table saw as a
> device for shooting lumber into the wall.) =A0Are there any good
> alternatives beside 1/4" paneling? =A0That won't break the bank.

jg-

Depends on what level of performance & look you'd be satisfied
with......

I would suggest 1/2 or 7/16 osb over the studs and a "finish" of 1/2"
drywall (walls) and 5/8 drywall alone on the ceiling.

If your garage is 25' x 25' you're looking at less than $200 worth of
extra sheet goods (osb). If you're DIY'ing, the layer of osb will
make the installation of the drywall even easier.

How tall are the walls? Perimeter stem wall?

Unless oyu're in earhquake country or a high wind area, I'd suggest
the osb be installed horizontal (unblocked) to increase "over the
studs" bending strength and reduce time & cost. Drywall can go
either way (your perference) but place the sheets to avoid "joints
over joints". With staggered joints the drywall will "block" the osb
& vice versa......stronger wall & less chance of a drywall seam
problem.

If oyu want to go "lowest" cost...just osb on the walls but osb paints
up kinda messy.

cheers
Bob

Posted by stan on October 14, 2009, 12:44 pm

> > I'm building a garage with some living space above it. =A0I'd like to
> > insulate and cover the walls in the garage area as well. =A0But I'd
> > rather use something besides wallboard since it is so easily damaged.
> > (See the funny but true earlier posting defintion of a table saw as a
> > device for shooting lumber into the wall.) =A0Are there any good
> > alternatives beside 1/4" paneling? =A0That won't break the bank.

> jg-
> Depends on what level of performance & look you'd be satisfied
> with......
> I would suggest 1/2 or 7/16 osb over the studs and =A0a "finish" of 1/2"
> drywall (walls) =A0and 5/8 drywall alone on the ceiling.
> If your garage is 25' x 25' you're looking at less than $200 worth of
> extra sheet goods (osb). =A0If you're DIY'ing, the layer of osb will
> make the installation of the drywall even easier.
> How tall are the walls? =A0Perimeter stem wall?
> Unless oyu're in earhquake country or a high wind area, I'd suggest
> the osb be installed horizontal (unblocked) =A0to increase "over the
> studs" bending strength and reduce time & cost. =A0 =A0Drywall can go
> either way (your perference) but place the sheets to avoid "joints
> over joints". =A0With staggered joints the drywall will "block" the osb
> & vice versa......stronger wall & less chance of a drywall seam
> problem.
> If oyu want to go "lowest" cost...just osb on the walls but osb paints
> up kinda messy.
> cheers
> Bob

Relative bought used home.It has garage. About 18 by 21 feet. Plaster
board walls already showing some slight damage.
He has added a four foot wall of OSB around the garage to protect
lower down and is mounting shelves to wall studs above in certain
areas. Garage ceiling (no living space just a low attic above) is also
plaster board; not sure of thickness but would have met fire code when
built about 17 years ago.

Posted by DD_BobK on October 14, 2009, 6:23 pm

> > > I'm building a garage with some living space above it. =A0I'd like to
> > > insulate and cover the walls in the garage area as well. =A0But I'd
> > > rather use something besides wallboard since it is so easily damaged.
> > > (See the funny but true earlier posting defintion of a table saw as a
> > > device for shooting lumber into the wall.) =A0Are there any good
> > > alternatives beside 1/4" paneling? =A0That won't break the bank.

> > jg-
> > Depends on what level of performance & look you'd be satisfied
> > with......
> > I would suggest 1/2 or 7/16 osb over the studs and =A0a "finish" of 1/2=

> > drywall (walls) =A0and 5/8 drywall alone on the ceiling.
> > If your garage is 25' x 25' you're looking at less than $200 worth of
> > extra sheet goods (osb). =A0If you're DIY'ing, the layer of osb will
> > make the installation of the drywall even easier.
> > How tall are the walls? =A0Perimeter stem wall?
> > Unless oyu're in earhquake country or a high wind area, I'd suggest
> > the osb be installed horizontal (unblocked) =A0to increase "over the
> > studs" bending strength and reduce time & cost. =A0 =A0Drywall can go
> > either way (your perference) but place the sheets to avoid "joints
> > over joints". =A0With staggered joints the drywall will "block" the osb
> > & vice versa......stronger wall & less chance of a drywall seam
> > problem.
> > If oyu want to go "lowest" cost...just osb on the walls but osb paints
> > up kinda messy.
> > cheers
> > Bob

> Relative bought used home.It has garage. About 18 by 21 feet. Plaster
> board walls already showing some slight damage.
> He has added a four foot wall of OSB around the garage to protect
> lower down and is mounting shelves to wall studs above in certain
> areas. Garage ceiling (no living space just a low attic above) is also
> plaster board; not sure of thickness but would have met fire code when
> built about 17 years ago.

Like I said...it depends on how much money or effort you want to
expend.

Drywall is (imo) a crappy material but its cheap & easy to repair.
Even a beat up garage interior can easily be patched, filled, primed &
painted and it will too pretty good.

I like structural panels under the drywall, way stronger walls &
really easy to install shelving. But "cover" drywall can still be
messed up; its a very soft material.

Plywood or especially osb doesn't look all that professional if not
covered with gyp, plus plywood alone wont give you the fire protection
you need.

cheers
Bob

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