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anti-heat window film meirman 07-10-2005
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Posted by meirman on July 10, 2005, 9:39 pm


A friend's house faces west and it gets so hot in the afternoon that
his rather new and just recharged central AC can't keep up with it.
Much hotter than other places. Cathedral ceiling.

All I can think of is anti-heat window film. Does this work? Can he
do it himself? He's afraid it will look tacky after he does it.

Or he won't be able to see out the window. Does it look as dark as
tinted windows on cars do, or are they dark on purpose and the
anti-heat part isn't so dark?

Any recommendations for a good brand or where to get it?

Thanks a lot.

Oh, should he stop using his ceiling fan in the summer?

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Posted by Pagan on July 10, 2005, 7:15 pm


> A friend's house faces west and it gets so hot in the afternoon that
> his rather new and just recharged central AC can't keep up with it.
> Much hotter than other places. Cathedral ceiling.
>
> All I can think of is anti-heat window film. Does this work? Can he
> do it himself? He's afraid it will look tacky after he does it.

Depends on what he has for windows. If he has newer low E double windows,
film isn't likely to do anything. It may be poor or lack of insulation in
the walls facing West. I'm told insulation can easily be added to walls.
Check Google.

With a window film kit, all you need is a hair dryer and a steady hand.

> Or he won't be able to see out the window. Does it look as dark as
> tinted windows on cars do, or are they dark on purpose and the
> anti-heat part isn't so dark?
>
> Any recommendations for a good brand or where to get it?

www.doitbest.com

> Thanks a lot.
>
> Oh, should he stop using his ceiling fan in the summer?

Depends. He could try it and see if the light breeze cools him off as well
as AC.

He should also check his registers. They might be closed, or the air
otherwise blocked by a kinked duct.

He should consider planting a couple trees in front of his house. That will
save him money on AC bills, make his home look nicer, and give him a good
place to hang a hammock.

Pagan




Posted by meirman on July 10, 2005, 10:52 pm


In alt.home.repair on Sun, 10 Jul 2005 19:15:27 -0700 "Pagan"

>> A friend's house faces west and it gets so hot in the afternoon that
>> his rather new and just recharged central AC can't keep up with it.
>> Much hotter than other places. Cathedral ceiling.
>>
>> All I can think of is anti-heat window film. Does this work? Can he
>> do it himself? He's afraid it will look tacky after he does it.
>
>Depends on what he has for windows. If he has newer low E double windows,

Probably not. The house was built in the 70's or 60's. He has an
almost bay window with lots of 12" panes.

>film isn't likely to do anything. It may be poor or lack of insulation in
>the walls facing West. I'm told insulation can easily be added to walls.
>Check Google.

He has a little window to the side of his front door and says he can
really feel the heat in front of it when the summer sun is shining.
Made a curtain for that one, but wants to look out the bay windwo.

>With a window film kit, all you need is a hair dryer and a steady hand.
>
>> Or he won't be able to see out the window. Does it look as dark as
>> tinted windows on cars do, or are they dark on purpose and the
>> anti-heat part isn't so dark?
>>
>> Any recommendations for a good brand or where to get it?
>
>www.doitbest.com

Good idea. I relayed all this to him.

Hadn't found it yet when I posteed but also found these. Both sell
retail.

http://www.gordonglassusa.com/listing.htm?cd=341 This looks good and
certainly affordable, and they ship. (I use "shipping" as a search
word.) No samples, at least of what he wants.

http://www.concordwindowfilms.com/ also this. You can also buy a
sample pack for 10 dollars that includes a ten dollar coupon for any
other package of film.

The price seems to be between 33 and 80 dollars for the film, plus
shipping. Not a lot if it is pleasing.

>> Thanks a lot.

Thanks again.

I'm happy to have heard your ideas, and I'm still very interested if
someone knows anything bad about this idea.

>> Oh, should he stop using his ceiling fan in the summer?
>
>Depends. He could try it and see if the light breeze cools him off as well
>as AC.
>
>He should also check his registers. They might be closed, or the air
>otherwise blocked by a kinked duct.

He'll see this.

>He should consider planting a couple trees in front of his house. That will
>save him money on AC bills, make his home look nicer, and give him a good
>place to hang a hammock.

They planted a magnolia tree this year, but in front of the bedroom
for some reason. :) There's more room on that side and I guess he
thought charging the AC would solve the problem.

>Pagan
>


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Posted by Pagan on July 10, 2005, 9:16 pm


> In alt.home.repair on Sun, 10 Jul 2005 19:15:27 -0700 "Pagan"
>
> >> A friend's house faces west and it gets so hot in the afternoon that
> >> his rather new and just recharged central AC can't keep up with it.
> >> Much hotter than other places. Cathedral ceiling.
> >>
> >> All I can think of is anti-heat window film. Does this work? Can he
> >> do it himself? He's afraid it will look tacky after he does it.
> >
> >Depends on what he has for windows. If he has newer low E double
windows,
>
> Probably not. The house was built in the 70's or 60's. He has an
> almost bay window with lots of 12" panes.

The low E windows, which is what I had installed a couple years ago, are
damn impressive. You get all the light, and almost none of the heat. It
makes a HUGE difference, especially with large windows.

> >film isn't likely to do anything. It may be poor or lack of insulation
in
> >the walls facing West. I'm told insulation can easily be added to walls.
> >Check Google.
>
> He has a little window to the side of his front door and says he can
> really feel the heat in front of it when the summer sun is shining.
> Made a curtain for that one, but wants to look out the bay windwo.
>
> >With a window film kit, all you need is a hair dryer and a steady hand.
> >
> >> Or he won't be able to see out the window. Does it look as dark as
> >> tinted windows on cars do, or are they dark on purpose and the
> >> anti-heat part isn't so dark?
> >>
> >> Any recommendations for a good brand or where to get it?
> >
> >www.doitbest.com
>
> Good idea. I relayed all this to him.
>
> Hadn't found it yet when I posteed but also found these. Both sell
> retail.
>
> http://www.gordonglassusa.com/listing.htm?cd=341 This looks good and
> certainly affordable, and they ship. (I use "shipping" as a search
> word.) No samples, at least of what he wants.
>
> http://www.concordwindowfilms.com/ also this. You can also buy a
> sample pack for 10 dollars that includes a ten dollar coupon for any
> other package of film.
>
> The price seems to be between 33 and 80 dollars for the film, plus
> shipping. Not a lot if it is pleasing.

If I recall correctly, www.doitbest.com, which is the Do It Center's retail
web site (they have several stores in L.A.) has them significantly cheaper.
Whether they're any better, I don't know.

> >> Thanks a lot.
>
> Thanks again.
>
> I'm happy to have heard your ideas, and I'm still very interested if
> someone knows anything bad about this idea.

Me too. Other than having plastic over your windows, I really don't see
anything too bad. If done with care, it's unlikely they'll be very
noticable.

> >> Oh, should he stop using his ceiling fan in the summer?
> >
> >Depends. He could try it and see if the light breeze cools him off as
well
> >as AC.
> >
> >He should also check his registers. They might be closed, or the air
> >otherwise blocked by a kinked duct.
>
> He'll see this.
>
> >He should consider planting a couple trees in front of his house. That
will
> >save him money on AC bills, make his home look nicer, and give him a good
> >place to hang a hammock.
>
> They planted a magnolia tree this year, but in front of the bedroom
> for some reason. :) There's more room on that side and I guess he
> thought charging the AC would solve the problem.

I just had a brand new central air system installed in my house, and I still
planted trees in front, as well has installed ceiling fans, a whole house
fan, new windows, storm doors, and I'm not done yet. Next will be
insulation under the house, in the walls, and when the new roof goes in
within a couple years, new attic insulation, soffit vents, and solar roof
vents.

I don't believe cranking up the AC is the answer to anything, and my goal is
to use it as little as possible. These things cost a bloody fortune to run,
not to mention the wear and tear of pushing it to cool a virtual greenhouse,
or the reduced humidity which can irritate the lungs, eyes, and skin, and
dry out any fancy wood in the home. (of course, not all of this stuff was
done just for energy reasons, but also ascetetic and functional
reasons...house is over 60 years old)

Another tree or two would be the cheapest way to help his hot house, after
the window film. Heck, even some tall bushes would help.

I'm only harping on this because I'm assuming, with his window film idea,
that he's not made of money. I hate to see a guy spend hundreds of dollars
feeding an AC unit when he doesn't have to.

Pagan

> >Pagan
> >
>
>
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Posted by meirman on July 11, 2005, 12:36 am


In alt.home.repair on Sun, 10 Jul 2005 21:16:13 -0700 "Pagan"

>
>
>I don't believe cranking up the AC is the answer to anything, and my goal is
>to use it as little as possible. These things cost a bloody fortune to run,

My house is newer, 1979. Most years, I haven't used the AC at all.
The summer I moved in, I slept in the basement when it was hot, and
didn't go upstairs until the morning, to get fresh clothes.

Then I put in a roof fan. It lowered the temp of the second floor at
least 10^F. Turns on by itself, off by itself. Although I do have an
override and I turn it off in the fall and spring to use the heat of
the day to heat my house for the night.

Strange though. The first motor lasted 5 years. The second, which I
ordered from the manufacturer of the fan, about 1. The third, from a
local motor store, about 5; the fourth about 2: the current one about
5 so far. Plus another 4 years I can't account for, but I know some
lasted 5 or 6 or 7 and others 1 or 2.

Rain hits the roof and bounces through the coarse screen that
surrounds the fan, or hits the screen directly. And mist lands on the
attic floor, and I guess on the fan motor too. Haven't figured out
how to protect the motor without making it overheat while running.
But still it's strange how long some last and how little others.

At least the fan motor is replaceable from the inside, and every time
I do it faster than before.

That friend has a cathedral ceiling and there isn't much space in his
attic (24 inches?)


>not to mention the wear and tear of pushing it to cool a virtual greenhouse,
>or the reduced humidity which can irritate the lungs, eyes, and skin, and
>dry out any fancy wood in the home. (of course, not all of this stuff was
>done just for energy reasons, but also ascetetic and functional
>reasons...house is over 60 years old)


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