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asphalt millings rwebb 09-18-2006
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Posted by on September 18, 2006, 2:44 pm

rwebb@digidata.com wrote:
> I have a gravel driveway with approximate dimensions of 40 feet x 60
> feet. I have friend who has several dump trunks full of asphalt
> millings. I would like to excavate the gravel and dirt and put down 4
> to 6 inches of the millings. I have access to rollers and compactors
> that I'll use while putting it down.
>
> My question: Is there any product available that would help in bonding
> the material when I put it down? Or are the retailer sealers adequate?
>
> I have seen mention of emulsifiers that can be added but if anyone
> knows of something that would be available at the retail level, that
> would be great.

I'd look for one of the contractors who does "original-style" macadam
paving,
with sprayer for liquid asphalt. Layer of stone, spray asphalt, top
layer of stone.

Sealer ain't gonna bond anything for long.

HTH,
J


Posted by hallerb@aol.com on September 18, 2006, 3:49 pm
>
> Sealer ain't gonna bond anything for long.
>
> HTH,
> J

yeah and cost more than asphalt too.

hot tar is the way to go


Posted by webber1998 on September 18, 2006, 4:12 pm

>> hot tar is the way to go

I think I would be perfectly happy with compacting and rolling the
millings. I'm not looking for perfection. If I was, I'd just hire
someone to pave it.

Thanks again. !


Posted by Richard J Kinch on September 18, 2006, 7:32 pm
> I have friend who has several dump trunks full of asphalt
> millings. I would like to excavate the gravel and dirt and put down 4
> to 6 inches of the millings.

By "millings" you mean old waste asphaltic concrete from scarifiers?
"Asphalt" is petroleum tar, not asphaltic concrete (asphalt plus
gravel).

That recycled stuff is basically a low-quality gravel, weak and brittle,
that can only be used in small proportions in new paving material for
the sake of getting rid of it. And that has to be done by lots of heat
and mixing with fresh asphalt in a big mixing plant. Not something you
can accomplish in your driveway.

There's a reason this old material was torn up. It's no good for paving
any more. You might as well try to pave with kitty litter or bread
crumbs.

> My question: Is there any product available that would help in
> bonding the material when I put it down?

Yeah, it's called asphalt. See above.

> Or are the retailer sealers adequate?

You mean the water emulsions of asphalt? Forget it.

Posted by David Nebenzahl on September 18, 2006, 8:09 pm
Richard J Kinch spake thus:

>> I have friend who has several dump trunks full of asphalt
>>millings. I would like to excavate the gravel and dirt and put down 4
>>to 6 inches of the millings.
>
> By "millings" you mean old waste asphaltic concrete from scarifiers?
> "Asphalt" is petroleum tar, not asphaltic concrete (asphalt plus
> gravel).
>
> That recycled stuff is basically a low-quality gravel, weak and brittle,
> that can only be used in small proportions in new paving material for
> the sake of getting rid of it. And that has to be done by lots of heat
> and mixing with fresh asphalt in a big mixing plant. Not something you
> can accomplish in your driveway.
>
> There's a reason this old material was torn up. It's no good for paving
> any more. You might as well try to pave with kitty litter or bread
> crumbs.

The OP said he's used it before and it worked well. Why shouldn't we
take his word for it?


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