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asphalt millings rwebb 09-18-2006
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Posted by webber1998 on September 19, 2006, 12:52 pm

Chris Lewis wrote:
> >
> > Richard J Kinch wrote:
> > > Ether Jones writes:
> > >
> > > > No special prep, no sealers, no nothing - just dump it,
> > > > spread it, and roll it down.
> > >
> > > For loose gravel, OK.
> > >
> > > The OP was trying to improvise some kind of concrete from it.
> >
> > No, not trying to improvise ANYTHING.
> >
> > I know what it is, where its from and how it works. I've used it
> > before and the previous owner put 125' of it on the length of my
> > driveway leading to my house and parking area. Would you like a photo
> > of it after over 5 years ??? IT SURE THE HELL ISN'T GRAVEL.
>
> The key to it working is how much asphalt is left, and how badly
> it's deteriorated (some of it evaporates, believe it or not).
>
> If it's still "juicy" enough <grin>, simple compaction will work
> if done properly. But mixing it with liquid asphalt will
> replenish even real stale asphalt, or applying it with heat
> will make it possible to reuse staler asphalt without adding
> fresh asphalt.
>
> It's better to avoid taking chances, and use one or the other
> to make sure it stays put and doesn't crumble on you.
> All the better if it's on a firm packed base. Eg: an
> already well-used gravel driveway.
>
> There is road building equipment that drives along, grinds
> and picks up asphalt and immediately re-lays it behind.
> They do both - add hot tar and heat - the "tar truck" is
> ahead of the machine. Then the big rollers come along
> and compact it while it's still hot.
> --
> Chris Lewis, Una confibula non set est
> It's not just anyone who gets a Starship Cruiser class named after them.

I went out and checked what they had for me and yes, it is still fairly
"juicy". Yesterday was fairly sunny and it was pretty goopy stuff. (
Love that English ! ). I can get the heat, but not sure about the
liquid asphalt.

Thanks !


Posted by Chris Lewis on September 19, 2006, 1:07 pm

> I went out and checked what they had for me and yes, it is still fairly
> "juicy". Yesterday was fairly sunny and it was pretty goopy stuff. (
> Love that English ! ).

Heh. I spent a couple of summers working in a refinery lab, where one
of the most frequent tests I did was on road building asphalt.

It's _startling_ how soft/gooey it is even at room temperature when
in the unmixed state. Took me a while to believe that was what
it was, because I was _sure_ anybody driving on it would sink right
through. In the raw/unmixed state, it starts turning liquid around
85-95F. Yeah, really.

The aggregates mixed into it makes all the difference.

> I can get the heat, but not sure about the liquid asphalt.

Well, short of buying a tanker truck full...

It might be worth contacting a driveway paver, and see what they
say about using your material... That'd make things very simple.
--
Chris Lewis, Una confibula non set est
It's not just anyone who gets a Starship Cruiser class named after them.

Posted by webber1998 on September 19, 2006, 5:36 pm

Chris Lewis wrote:
>
>
> It might be worth contacting a driveway paver, and see what they
> say about using your material... That'd make things very simple.
> --
> Chris Lewis, Una confibula non set est
> It's not just anyone who gets a Starship Cruiser class named after them.

Thanks for the information....


Posted by Richard J Kinch on September 19, 2006, 2:10 am
webber1998 writes:

> IT SURE THE H*** ISN'T GRAVEL.

The please explain what this term "millings" means.

Asphalt pavement is a concrete consisting of gravel aggregate in asphaltic
cement. Recycled asphaltic pavement consists of the same. Mostly gravel.

Posted by webber1998 on September 18, 2006, 9:58 pm

Ether Jones wrote:
> Richard J Kinch wrote:
>
> > There's a reason this old material was torn up. It's no good for paving
> > any more. You might as well try to pave with kitty litter or bread
> > crumbs.
>
> Have you ever tried it?
>
> The county was tearing up the "asphalt" road in front of my home. I
> talked the crew into dumping and rolling of load of at the end of my
> gravel drive. No special prep, no sealers, no nothing - just dump it,
> spread it, and roll it down.
>
> Looks great, wears like iron. Wish they'd done the whole 200 feet.

Thats the best part. Sometimes you can get the stuff for free and put
it down if you have the equipment.

What I have now is 125' that basically looks like a worn asphalt
driveway and it has held up a hell of a lot better then stone EVER
could, but certainly NOT like a new asphalt driveway. The previous
owner did that 5 years ago. And left the driveway near the house
stone. We enlarged this area to a 40' x 50' and are looking to fill
this in. The 125' we will do when it needs it.


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