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Posted by al on July 4, 2006, 7:17 pm
Just had a new roof completed the other day and a neighbor commented
this afternoon that there aren't any pieces of tape scattered around
the yard. He says shingles have a piece of cellaphane tape covering a
strip of tar or something that serves as an adhesive so the shingles
stay put. He said that sometimes roofers neglect to remove the tape
which makes the shingles vulnerable to wind damage and that if it ahd
been removed it would be scattered around the lawn. Living in S.
Florida with the threat of hurricanes, this additional adhesive would
be important.
In fact I did come across a piece of scrap shingle and it still had
this tape on it. My question is, is there a way to check the shingles
without disturbing the installation job too much to see if tape remains
on a random number of shingles or would it be prudent to contact
someone who actually knows what they're doing to take a look. And if I
do find that the tape has not been removed, what can be done about
that? If all or most of them have to be removed does that mean the
paper beneath them also would have to be replaced?
It wouldn't surprise me to find that they had not removed the tape
because they have already had to come back on three other ocassions to
correct not insignificant oversights in their work, from failing to
replace rotton wood to sloppy installation of fascia to reusing the
aluminum drip edge they had to remove to replace the wood.
Thanks (again) for any suggestions.
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Posted by Puddin' Man on July 4, 2006, 7:42 pm
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>Just had a new roof completed the other day and a neighbor commented
>this afternoon that there aren't any pieces of tape scattered around
>the yard. He says shingles have a piece of cellaphane tape covering a
>strip of tar or something that serves as an adhesive so the shingles
>stay put. He said that sometimes roofers neglect to remove the tape
>which makes the shingles vulnerable to wind damage and that if it ahd
>been removed it would be scattered around the lawn. Living in S.
>Florida with the threat of hurricanes, this additional adhesive would
>be important.
Concur re importance.
They're supposed to:
1.) Remove the tape.
2.) Properly discard the tape. You aren't supposed to see
any lying around.
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>In fact I did come across a piece of scrap shingle and it still had
>this tape on it. My question is, is there a way to check the shingles
>without disturbing the installation job too much to see if tape remains
>on a random number of shingles
If you can get to them, you can check. Be very careful with the
ladder, etc. Very, very gently pry up the bottom of a shingle
and lift it just enough to examine underneath. You know what
the tape looks like. I'd consider using a knife blade, but
very carefully.
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>or would it be prudent to contact
>someone who actually knows what they're doing to take a look. And if I
>do find that the tape has not been removed, what can be done about
>that?
Not certain why they couldn't return and remove the tape
given recent install.
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>If all or most of them have to be removed does that mean the
>paper beneath them also would have to be replaced?
You mean remove the shingles? Shouldn't be necessary.
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>It wouldn't surprise me to find that they had not removed the tape
>because they have already had to come back on three other ocassions to
>correct not insignificant oversights in their work, from failing to
>replace rotton wood
Did you contract for such replacement?
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>to sloppy installation of fascia to reusing the
>aluminum drip edge they had to remove to replace the wood.
I'm guessing this last is common practice.
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>Thanks (again) for any suggestions.
I'm guessing they removed most/all of the tape, but it
merits an inspection, followup, as necessary.
Cheers,
Puddin'
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Posted by Puddin' Man on July 4, 2006, 8:02 pm
I often forget to state the potentially obvious.
If a shingle presents much resistance to being lifted,
it's likely that the tape has been removed and the
sun has bonded it to the shingle underneath.
"Don't Force Them Up" if they present much resistance.
Check some more. If they're all like that, you're
likely OK.
Best,
Puddin'
wrote:
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>>Just had a new roof completed the other day and a neighbor commented
>>this afternoon that there aren't any pieces of tape scattered around
>>the yard. He says shingles have a piece of cellaphane tape covering a
>>strip of tar or something that serves as an adhesive so the shingles
>>stay put. He said that sometimes roofers neglect to remove the tape
>>which makes the shingles vulnerable to wind damage and that if it ahd
>>been removed it would be scattered around the lawn. Living in S.
>>Florida with the threat of hurricanes, this additional adhesive would
>>be important.
>Concur re importance.
>They're supposed to:
>1.) Remove the tape.
>2.) Properly discard the tape. You aren't supposed to see
> any lying around.
>>In fact I did come across a piece of scrap shingle and it still had
>>this tape on it. My question is, is there a way to check the shingles
>>without disturbing the installation job too much to see if tape remains
>>on a random number of shingles
>If you can get to them, you can check. Be very careful with the
>ladder, etc. Very, very gently pry up the bottom of a shingle
>and lift it just enough to examine underneath. You know what
>the tape looks like. I'd consider using a knife blade, but
>very carefully.
>>or would it be prudent to contact
>>someone who actually knows what they're doing to take a look. And if I
>>do find that the tape has not been removed, what can be done about
>>that?
>Not certain why they couldn't return and remove the tape
>given recent install.
>>If all or most of them have to be removed does that mean the
>>paper beneath them also would have to be replaced?
>You mean remove the shingles? Shouldn't be necessary.
>>It wouldn't surprise me to find that they had not removed the tape
>>because they have already had to come back on three other ocassions to
>>correct not insignificant oversights in their work, from failing to
>>replace rotton wood
>Did you contract for such replacement?
>>to sloppy installation of fascia to reusing the
>>aluminum drip edge they had to remove to replace the wood.
>I'm guessing this last is common practice.
>>Thanks (again) for any suggestions.
>I'm guessing they removed most/all of the tape, but it
>merits an inspection, followup, as necessary.
> Cheers,
> Puddin'
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Posted by al on July 4, 2006, 8:46 pm
Puddin' Man wrote:
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> > failing to replace rotton wood
> Did you contract for such replacement?
200' were included in the contract. It's been harder than pulling
teeth from the mouth of a hungry croc to get them to replace what they
did replace. When I called them to come back and check some more, the
first piece they checked broke off in the guy's hand...
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> >to sloppy installation of fascia to reusing the
> >aluminum drip edge they had to remove to replace the wood.
The drip edge was new and had been carelessly pried up leaving it bent
and rippled, on the top.
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> Cheers,
> Puddin'
Thanks very much for the helpful information. Part of the problem down
here is that roofers are overwhelmed with work from last year's
hurricane and they're having a hard time keeping laborers, so many are
inexperienced. I'm aware of this and have been patient with them and
when I've called to complain, I've tried to convey it in such a way
that I'm just pointing out oversights. But when this company, or at
least one of its reps, is confronted with a complaint they (she)
immediately goes into attack mode demonstrating a practiced agility for
misrepresentation.
Anyway, your comments suggest I have less to be concerned about than I
had thought and I appreciate the help.
Thanks again!
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Posted by Harry K on July 4, 2006, 10:43 pm
Puddin' Man wrote:
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> >Just had a new roof completed the other day and a neighbor commented
> >this afternoon that there aren't any pieces of tape scattered around
> >the yard. He says shingles have a piece of cellaphane tape covering a
> >strip of tar or something that serves as an adhesive so the shingles
> >stay put. He said that sometimes roofers neglect to remove the tape
> >which makes the shingles vulnerable to wind damage and that if it ahd
> >been removed it would be scattered around the lawn. Living in S.
> >Florida with the threat of hurricanes, this additional adhesive would
> >be important.
> Concur re importance.
> They're supposed to:
> 1.) Remove the tape.
> 2.) Properly discard the tape. You aren't supposed to see
> any lying around.
Totally wrong. Just check the instructions on the bundle wrappers.
Removing the tape is contrary to the installation instructions.
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Harry K
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>this afternoon that there aren't any pieces of tape scattered around
>the yard. He says shingles have a piece of cellaphane tape covering a
>strip of tar or something that serves as an adhesive so the shingles
>stay put. He said that sometimes roofers neglect to remove the tape
>which makes the shingles vulnerable to wind damage and that if it ahd
>been removed it would be scattered around the lawn. Living in S.
>Florida with the threat of hurricanes, this additional adhesive would
>be important.