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attic access hole size MiamiCuse 06-24-2007
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Posted by MiamiCuse on June 24, 2007, 3:43 am
I have noticed that older houses typically have smaller access holes. My
1992 house the access to the attic opening is about 26"x26", and my 1972
house have five access holes to the attic and each one is only about
16"x16". This is too small for many people to get through - electricians,
pest control etc...

Does this mean in general the population is getting bigger over the years?

MC



Posted by mm on June 24, 2007, 4:15 am
On Sun, 24 Jun 2007 03:43:58 -0400, "MiamiCuse"

>I have noticed that older houses typically have smaller access holes. My
>1992 house the access to the attic opening is about 26"x26", and my 1972
>house have five access holes to the attic and each one is only about
>16"x16". This is too small for many people to get through - electricians,
>pest control etc...

I'm glad to hear this. You're the first person to confirm my one-time
obsrvation.

My hatch in my 28 y.o. house is plenty big enough for me, but I tried
to do something for a friend of mine, and I couldn't get into her
attic. I was real fat at the time, but it wasn't my belly, it was my
rib cage that was too big. There was barely any fat on my sternum,
ribs, and backbone.

And I'm only 5'8' with a best weight of about 150. I don't think I
was more than a half inch or an inch thicker than what I would be at
my minimum weight.

I'm really glad I didn't get up there and then have trouble getting
down. I'm sure she's glad too, that she didn't have to call the fire
department. They get F's in neatness.
>
>Does this mean in general the population is getting bigger over the years?

I only have two data points but maybe. Her house isn't much older than
mine, but I forget how old it is. 35 or 40 years at most. That's
only a 12 year difference.

Oh yeah, our house built in 1953 or so had a whole drop-down fold-up
stairway, so I guess that's not a valid comparison.


copy to her

>MC
>


Posted by Joseph Meehan on June 24, 2007, 6:42 am
MiamiCuse wrote:
> I have noticed that older houses typically have smaller access holes.
> My 1992 house the access to the attic opening is about 26"x26", and
> my 1972 house have five access holes to the attic and each one is
> only about 16"x16". This is too small for many people to get through
> - electricians, pest control etc...
>
> Does this mean in general the population is getting bigger over the
> years?
> MC

It means the framing is different and the newer construction is likely
using engineered framing and it has different spacing.

--
Joseph Meehan

Dia 's Muire duit




Posted by aemeijers on June 24, 2007, 8:02 am

> MiamiCuse wrote:
>> I have noticed that older houses typically have smaller access holes.
>> My 1992 house the access to the attic opening is about 26"x26", and
>> my 1972 house have five access holes to the attic and each one is
>> only about 16"x16". This is too small for many people to get through
>> - electricians, pest control etc...
>>
>> Does this mean in general the population is getting bigger over the
>> years?
>> MC
>
> It means the framing is different and the newer construction is likely
> using engineered framing and it has different spacing.
>
Shrug. Usually means the builder was cheap, or the designer never actually
swung a hammer, and was trying to shave pennies to hit a price point. One
summer as a kid, I worked for a builder throwing up low-end cookie cutters.
These places had a roof overhang in front, and 3 feet down the sides, but
then cut back to no overhang. All to save a few bucks on the roof system. As
to attic access holes- these places had 16x20, in a small closet above the
shelf. This 1960 cookie cutter I am in is pretty good for access- 24x24, in
the hall at attic centerline. My other house, we put in a pull-down stair,
headered off properly.

I'd hate to have me for a customer- I grew up in the business, with a good
designer for a father. Sadly, I didn't inherit his talent, but it was a good
education in what is and isn't good design and workmanship.

aem sends....



Posted by MiamiCuse on June 24, 2007, 11:06 am

>
>> MiamiCuse wrote:
>>> I have noticed that older houses typically have smaller access holes.
>>> My 1992 house the access to the attic opening is about 26"x26", and
>>> my 1972 house have five access holes to the attic and each one is
>>> only about 16"x16". This is too small for many people to get through
>>> - electricians, pest control etc...
>>>
>>> Does this mean in general the population is getting bigger over the
>>> years?
>>> MC
>>
>> It means the framing is different and the newer construction is likely
>> using engineered framing and it has different spacing.
>>
> Shrug. Usually means the builder was cheap, or the designer never actually
> swung a hammer, and was trying to shave pennies to hit a price point. One
> summer as a kid, I worked for a builder throwing up low-end cookie
> cutters. These places had a roof overhang in front, and 3 feet down the
> sides, but then cut back to no overhang. All to save a few bucks on the
> roof system. As to attic access holes- these places had 16x20, in a small
> closet above the shelf. This 1960 cookie cutter I am in is pretty good for
> access- 24x24, in the hall at attic centerline. My other house, we put in
> a pull-down stair, headered off properly.
>
> I'd hate to have me for a customer- I grew up in the business, with a good
> designer for a father. Sadly, I didn't inherit his talent, but it was a
> good education in what is and isn't good design and workmanship.
>
> aem sends....
>

It is the framing, the joists are 16" apart so the hole is 16". However I
don't think this is cost related. This one is a custom built house and I do
not see anywhere choices being made there were directly cost related. Even
the access itself it was using a standard cover - metal with hindges, you
loosen a butterfly screw, the cover swings down and hang by it's hinges, and
you get in. These seem like standard access plates that are 16x16. May be
it was an after thought someone forgot to put them in and had to put in
after the fact.

MC



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