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attic fan performance questions z 06-16-2008
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Posted by z on June 16, 2008, 11:45 am
got a remote reading thermometer and stashed it in the attic to see
what's happening. now i'm wondering what i should expect.

normalish 50 year old ranch house, connecticut. 1500 sq feet more or
less. old central AC, not particularly powerful or efficient. normal
amount of insulation, i.e. less than would be optimum but normal for
the period. powered vent fan, mushroom style. soffit vents, gable
vents, etc.

on the wise advice proferred here last year, i upped the temp on the
thermostat for the vent fan from 80 degree to about 100 IIRC.

OK; so during the final months of winter, when i had the thermometer,
there was a maximum of about 20 degrees difference between the house
and the attic.

lately, when it's warm, often 20 degrees difference, obviously in the
opposite direction. during a hot spell last week, when it was 90+
outside, attic got up to 120; house got up to 87 (AC off during
daytime).

so, is this reasonable/expected for powered attic vent? would bigger
fan do better?

Posted by Joseph Meehan on June 16, 2008, 1:59 pm
Different areas of the world get different results and certainly
different vents (inlets) make for differences in results.

Frankly I have not found that power vents are of much if any use.
Proper generous static venting seems to work just as well without noise and
electricity. The worse situations I have seen is when power vents end up
disrupting the natural flow and can even increase the temperature.

The real differences I have seen is poorly vented areas.

Overall yours does not seem to be bad.

If you really want to do something make sure it has inlets greater than
the minimum required and that the fan is not short circuiting the natural
air flow.

> got a remote reading thermometer and stashed it in the attic to see
> what's happening. now i'm wondering what i should expect.
>
> normalish 50 year old ranch house, connecticut. 1500 sq feet more or
> less. old central AC, not particularly powerful or efficient. normal
> amount of insulation, i.e. less than would be optimum but normal for
> the period. powered vent fan, mushroom style. soffit vents, gable
> vents, etc.
>
> on the wise advice proferred here last year, i upped the temp on the
> thermostat for the vent fan from 80 degree to about 100 IIRC.
>
> OK; so during the final months of winter, when i had the thermometer,
> there was a maximum of about 20 degrees difference between the house
> and the attic.
>
> lately, when it's warm, often 20 degrees difference, obviously in the
> opposite direction. during a hot spell last week, when it was 90+
> outside, attic got up to 120; house got up to 87 (AC off during
> daytime).
>
> so, is this reasonable/expected for powered attic vent? would bigger
> fan do better?


--
Joseph Meehan

Dia 's Muire duit




Posted by Red Green on June 16, 2008, 9:01 pm

> Different areas of the world get different results and certainly
> different vents (inlets) make for differences in results.
>
> Frankly I have not found that power vents are of much if any use.
> Proper generous static venting seems to work just as well without
> noise and electricity. The worse situations I have seen is when power
> vents end up disrupting the natural flow and can even increase the
> temperature.
>
> The real differences I have seen is poorly vented areas.
>
> Overall yours does not seem to be bad.
>
> If you really want to do something make sure it has inlets greater
> than
> the minimum required and that the fan is not short circuiting the
> natural air flow.

or sucking the AC out of the house via access, vents (stupidly)
terminating in the attic, etc.

>
> ..
>> got a remote reading thermometer and stashed it in the attic to see
>> what's happening. now i'm wondering what i should expect.
>>
>> normalish 50 year old ranch house, connecticut. 1500 sq feet more or
>> less. old central AC, not particularly powerful or efficient. normal
>> amount of insulation, i.e. less than would be optimum but normal for
>> the period. powered vent fan, mushroom style. soffit vents, gable
>> vents, etc.
>>
>> on the wise advice proferred here last year, i upped the temp on the
>> thermostat for the vent fan from 80 degree to about 100 IIRC.
>>
>> OK; so during the final months of winter, when i had the
>> thermometer, there was a maximum of about 20 degrees difference
>> between the house and the attic.
>>
>> lately, when it's warm, often 20 degrees difference, obviously in the
>> opposite direction. during a hot spell last week, when it was 90+
>> outside, attic got up to 120; house got up to 87 (AC off during
>> daytime).
>>
>> so, is this reasonable/expected for powered attic vent? would bigger
>> fan do better?
>
>


Posted by on June 17, 2008, 12:08 pm
$4c368faf@roadrunner.com:
>
>
>
>
>
> > =A0 =A0 Different areas of the world get different results and certainly=

> > different vents (inlets) make for differences in results.
>
> > =A0 =A0 Frankly I have not found that power vents are of much if any use=
.
> > Proper generous static venting seems to work just as well without
> > noise and electricity. =A0The worse situations I have seen is when power=

> > vents end up disrupting the natural flow and can even increase the
> > temperature.
>
> > =A0 =A0 The real differences I have seen is poorly vented areas.
>
> > =A0 =A0 Overall yours does not seem to be bad.
>
> > =A0 =A0 If you really want to do something make sure it has inlets great=
er
> > =A0 =A0 than
> > the minimum required and that the fan is not short circuiting the
> > natural air flow.
>
> or sucking the AC out of the house via access, vents (stupidly)
> terminating in the attic, etc.
>
>
>
>
>
> > ..
> >> got a remote reading thermometer and stashed it in the attic to see
> >> what's happening. now i'm wondering what i should expect.
>
> >> normalish 50 year old ranch house, connecticut. 1500 sq feet more or
> >> less. old central AC, not particularly powerful or efficient. normal
> >> amount of insulation, i.e. less than would be optimum but normal for
> >> the period. powered vent fan, mushroom style. soffit vents, gable
> >> vents, etc.
>
> >> on the wise advice proferred here last year, i upped the temp on the
> >> thermostat for the vent fan from 80 degree to about 100 IIRC.
>
> >> OK; so during the final months of =A0winter, when i had the
> >> thermometer, there was a maximum of about 20 degrees difference
> >> between the house and the attic.
>
> >> lately, when it's warm, often 20 degrees difference, obviously in the
> >> opposite direction. during a hot spell last week, when it was 90+
> >> outside, attic got up to 120; house got up to 87 (AC off during
> >> daytime).
>
> >> so, is this reasonable/expected for powered attic vent? would bigger
> >> fan do better?- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


He doesn't say what the temp was outside during the final days of
winter, but if the temp diff between the attic and the house was only
20 deg, I hope it was not very cold outside, as that means the attic
was at about 50 deg. If it was cold outside, I'd expect a much
bigger temp difference between the attic and the inside of the
house.

Probably the best thing that could be done here is to increase the
amount of attic insulation. That will do a lot more to keep attic
heat out of the house than installing a bigger fan. Plus you get
benefit not only in summer, but also with reduced heat loss in the
winter.

I also second the advice to make sure there is adequate intake
opening, ie soffit, gable, etc. If there isn't, you not only reduce
the cooling capaciyt, but you can be sucking air from inside the house
through any gaps, openings around fixtures, etc.

Posted by z on June 18, 2008, 4:17 pm
On Jun 17, 12:08=A0pm, trad...@optonline.net wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
156$4c368faf@roadrunner.com:
>
> > > =A0 =A0 Different areas of the world get different results and certai=
nly
> > > different vents (inlets) make for differences in results.
>
> > > =A0 =A0 Frankly I have not found that power vents are of much if any =
use.
> > > Proper generous static venting seems to work just as well without
> > > noise and electricity. =A0The worse situations I have seen is when po=
wer
> > > vents end up disrupting the natural flow and can even increase the
> > > temperature.
>
> > > =A0 =A0 The real differences I have seen is poorly vented areas.
>
> > > =A0 =A0 Overall yours does not seem to be bad.
>
> > > =A0 =A0 If you really want to do something make sure it has inlets gr=
eater
> > > =A0 =A0 than
> > > the minimum required and that thefanis not short circuiting the
> > > natural air flow.
>
> > or sucking the AC out of the house via access, vents (stupidly)
> > terminating in theattic, etc.
>
.
> > > ..
> > >> got a remote reading thermometer and stashed it in theatticto see
> > >> what's happening. now i'm wondering what i should expect.
>
> > >> normalish 50 year old ranch house, connecticut. 1500 sq feet more or
> > >> less. old central AC, not particularly powerful or efficient. normal
> > >> amount of insulation, i.e. less than would be optimum but normal for
> > >> the period. powered ventfan, mushroom style. soffit vents, gable
> > >> vents, etc.
>
> > >> on the wise advice proferred here last year, i upped the temp on the
> > >> thermostat for the ventfanfrom 80 degree to about 100 IIRC.
>
> > >> OK; so during the final months of =A0winter, when i had the
> > >> thermometer, there was a maximum of about 20 degrees difference
> > >> between the house and theattic.
>
> > >> lately, when it's warm, often 20 degrees difference, obviously in th=
e
> > >> opposite direction. during a hot spell last week, when it was 90+
> > >> outside,atticgot up to 120; house got up to 87 (AC off during
> > >> daytime).
>
> > >> so, is this reasonable/expected for poweredatticvent? would bigger
> > >>fando better?- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> He doesn't say what the temp was outside during the final days of
> winter, but if the temp diff between theatticand the house was only
> 20 deg, I hope it was not very cold outside, as that means theattic
> was at about 50 deg. =A0 =A0If it was cold outside, =A0I'd expect a much
> bigger temp difference between theatticand the inside of the
> house.
>
> Probably the best thing that could be done here is to increase the
> amount ofatticinsulation. =A0 That will do a lot more to keepattic
> heat out of the house than installing a biggerfan. =A0 Plus you get
> benefit not only in summer, but also with reduced heat loss in the
> winter.
>
> I also second the advice to make sure there is adequate intake
> opening, ie soffit, gable, etc. =A0 If there isn't, you not only reduce
> the cooling capaciyt, but you can be sucking air from inside the house
> through any gaps, openings around fixtures, etc.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

i was afraid you'd say something like that. is installing more
insulation as big a PIA as it looks? to make it worse, the previous
dwellers laid plywood over the joists to provide flooring for storage.
at least they didn't bother to fasten it down.

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