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bare wire and wire nut question benjunk 01-28-2008
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Posted by on January 28, 2008, 12:02 pm
On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 09:19:41 -0800, "SteveB"

>Remember that from the rules, a wire nut is a short protector and not a
>connector.
If that was true it would not be a splicing device as required in
110.14(B). Virtually all of the listings do NOT require twisting the
wire

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Posted by George on January 28, 2008, 1:01 pm
SteveB wrote:

>
> Remember that from the rules, a wire nut is a short protector and not a
> connector. Twisting the wires first helps in all cases, but particularly in
> the case of solid wire of around 14 or bigger, since the nut won't twist the
> wire that much. I twist the wires with Kleins, then clip what is long and
> looks like it will bottom out before the nut is on all the way.
>
> Steve
>
>
I believe that is incorrect. Wirenuts are specifically listed for use as
splicing devices not just as an insulator. If you use a quality properly
sized wirenut there is no need to do any twisting or whatever prior to
applying it. I have never seen a manufacturer's app note or any code
reference that suggested or required twisting.

Posted by SteveB on January 28, 2008, 7:27 pm

> SteveB wrote:
>
>>
>> Remember that from the rules, a wire nut is a short protector and not a
>> connector. Twisting the wires first helps in all cases, but particularly
>> in the case of solid wire of around 14 or bigger, since the nut won't
>> twist the wire that much. I twist the wires with Kleins, then clip what
>> is long and looks like it will bottom out before the nut is on all the
>> way.
>>
>> Steve
> I believe that is incorrect. Wirenuts are specifically listed for use as
> splicing devices not just as an insulator. If you use a quality properly
> sized wirenut there is no need to do any twisting or whatever prior to
> applying it. I have never seen a manufacturer's app note or any code
> reference that suggested or required twisting.

Just stating opinion. It could be incorrect. Everyone has the right to do
it any old way they want to.

Steve



Posted by Doug Miller on January 28, 2008, 8:28 pm

>Remember that from the rules, a wire nut is a short protector and not a
>connector.

Nonsense. Just look on the box, and you'll see "Listed as a pressure-type wire
connector on the following..."

--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)

It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again.

Posted by JoeSpareBedroom on January 28, 2008, 8:52 pm
>
>>Remember that from the rules, a wire nut is a short protector and not a
>>connector.
>
> Nonsense. Just look on the box, and you'll see "Listed as a pressure-type
> wire
> connector on the following..."
>
> --
> Regards,
> Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)


This is the 2nd time you've agreed with me in less than a week. Something is
wrong here.



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