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before i buy a new Natural Gas grill... GotBonus 06-23-2006
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Posted by Edwin Pawlowski on June 23, 2006, 8:17 pm

>
> Any upfront advice on burner type and material that I should stay away
> from?
> I am MOST concerned about EVEN heat distribution.
> AND some say 36,00 BTU. some 45K etc...can someone tell me exactly what
> that means as far as efficiency?
> Is it per hour use?


Budget? They come in all price ranges, and you do get what you pay for.

I have a Vermont Castings VC200 that is excellent. If I was buying again
tomorrow, I'd consider the Signature Series by them, or a Napoleon with the
infra-red burners. A good grill is at least $500, a very good grill is over
$1000. We use ours a lot and it has held up well for many years now.

As for Btu, that is the amount of heat it can put our. The larger the
grill, the more you need to get the same heat all over. an 18" grill may be
good with only 20k, but a 60" will need at least 60k for a lot of steaks.
Size should be determined by your needs. Just the two of you? Small is OK,
but if you have large gatherings, you want a 48" or more.

Stainless steel looks pretty, but is a PITA to keep clean. I like and use
my side burner and rotisserie burner a lot, but YMMV.

Other brands to consider are MHP (Modern Home Products), Broilmaster, Broil
King, Weber.
--
Ed
http://pages.cthome.net/edhome/



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Posted by GotBonus on June 24, 2006, 6:45 am

>
> Any upfront advice on burner type and material that I should stay away
> from?
> I am MOST concerned about EVEN heat distribution.
> AND some say 36,00 BTU. some 45K etc...can someone tell me exactly what
> that means as far as efficiency?
> Is it per hour use?
>
> Thanks

I appreciate all the replies. This is being done from a convenience point
of view, there are only two of use, but we occasionally cook for up to 6.
No need for a sideburner, but may consider one just in case. I have seen
the Vermont casings unit, and tend to like them in appearance( not real fond
of the stainless units), the Weber look cheap and no very well designed
ergonomically really( burner controls are in weird spots)

I am tired of the grill that we have now( very uneven cooking), and we have
run out of gas at inopportune times before. I already have the gas line
stubs in several places on the patio. a couple quick connects and I am set.
I will check codes on the mobility issue, but the reality is eventually the
unit will be built in.

Is there some kind of formula for determining best grill size to BTU ratio?

Also , is it true that the HD has some sort of big sale on the floor units
about mid summer?( probably doesn't matter as they are all Propane)

Thanks again



Posted by Edwin Pawlowski on June 24, 2006, 7:25 am


> Is there some kind of formula for determining best grill size to BTU
> ratio?
>
> Also , is it true that the HD has some sort of big sale on the floor units
> about mid summer?( probably doesn't matter as they are all Propane)

I guess you can do a Btu to square inch of primary cooking surface analysis.
In general, more is better as you can turn the burners down.

HD does have a mid summer sale, IIRC, but they do not have the best
selection of grills if you want something really good. They handle Vermont
Castings, but the models they have are made for the mass market. The
Signature series is a better quality. Take a look at some of the propane
dealers and outdoor furniture shops, etc. You may pay a few $ more, but
over the next 15 or so years, you will enjoy a better product.

AFAIK any brand of propane grill can be converted to NG.
--
Ed
http://pages.cthome.net/edhome/



Posted by on June 24, 2006, 7:46 am

Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
>
> > Is there some kind of formula for determining best grill size to BTU
> > ratio?
> >
> > Also , is it true that the HD has some sort of big sale on the floor units
> > about mid summer?( probably doesn't matter as they are all Propane)
>
> I guess you can do a Btu to square inch of primary cooking surface analysis.
> In general, more is better as you can turn the burners down.
>
> HD does have a mid summer sale, IIRC, but they do not have the best
> selection of grills if you want something really good. They handle Vermont
> Castings, but the models they have are made for the mass market. The
> Signature series is a better quality. Take a look at some of the propane
> dealers and outdoor furniture shops, etc. You may pay a few $ more, but
> over the next 15 or so years, you will enjoy a better product.
>
> AFAIK any brand of propane grill can be converted to NG.

Many grills come in nat gas or propane versions when you buy them, but
most cannot be converted. I was recently helping a friend buy a new
one. He's renting a condo while looking for a house to buy. So, he
wanted one that could be converted. Most cannot. Wound up buying a
CharmGlow or CharmBroil (can't remember which), because they were the
only one we could find that would convert. They offer a kit for $50
and actually show the dual fuel capability as a key feature.

Not sure why the others don't offer this. Could be a liability
concern, or maybe there just isn't enough demand.






> --
> Ed
> http://pages.cthome.net/edhome/


Posted by No on June 26, 2006, 12:43 pm
GotBonus wrote:
>> Any upfront advice on burner type and material that I should stay away
>> from?
>> I am MOST concerned about EVEN heat distribution.
>> AND some say 36,00 BTU. some 45K etc...can someone tell me exactly what
>> that means as far as efficiency?
>> Is it per hour use?
>>
>> Thanks
>
> I appreciate all the replies. This is being done from a convenience point
> of view, there are only two of use, but we occasionally cook for up to 6.
> No need for a sideburner, but may consider one just in case. I have seen
> the Vermont casings unit, and tend to like them in appearance( not real fond
> of the stainless units), the Weber look cheap and no very well designed
> ergonomically really( burner controls are in weird spots)
>
> I am tired of the grill that we have now( very uneven cooking), and we have
> run out of gas at inopportune times before. I already have the gas line
> stubs in several places on the patio. a couple quick connects and I am set.
> I will check codes on the mobility issue, but the reality is eventually the
> unit will be built in.
>
> Is there some kind of formula for determining best grill size to BTU ratio?
>
> Also , is it true that the HD has some sort of big sale on the floor units
> about mid summer?( probably doesn't matter as they are all Propane)
>
> Thanks again
>
>
The sale at home depot is for one day only, isn't advertised and only
covers their cheaper models. You are in the same boat as I was. Check
out the VTC400 at home depot. They carry it in natural gas. It has some
stainless parts, others are porcelain coated. The hood is porcelain. Its
high BTU 3 burner. No side burner. Its well made and is under $400. Get
the Vermont castings cover for it. Its well bade and fits nice. If they
do not have the natural gas version in stock then ask them to get it for
you. Another store in the area may have it.

Good luck

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