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better wax ring? peter 07-17-2007
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Posted by Oren on July 19, 2007, 5:20 pm
wrote:

>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>As for alterntives, there are 'wax-less' products I've seen in
>>>HD/Lowes. Big O-rings, etc.
>>
>>I wish I cold use them. My drain line makes a turn down just below the
>>flange and this product will not work for me.
>
>
>Curious, why? I mean have you had problems with wax rings?

No problems. I had two toilets out for a tile job, and wanted to use
the new o-ring type unit. Brought them home and they would not work,
because the turn in the drain line. Had the turn been lower I would
have been able to seat the new one.


--
Oren

"The voices in my head may not be real, but they have some good ideas!"

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Posted by Just Joshin on July 19, 2007, 10:42 pm

>wrote:
>
>>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>As for alterntives, there are 'wax-less' products I've seen in
>>>>HD/Lowes. Big O-rings, etc.
>>>
>>>I wish I cold use them. My drain line makes a turn down just below the
>>>flange and this product will not work for me.
>>
>>
>>Curious, why? I mean have you had problems with wax rings?
>
>No problems. I had two toilets out for a tile job, and wanted to use
>the new o-ring type unit. Brought them home and they would not work,
>because the turn in the drain line. Had the turn been lower I would
>have been able to seat the new one.


Since marble floors are porous, wax rings are discouraged. They have
rubber ones I've seen.

tom @ www.FreeCreditReportAdvice.com


Posted by Dan Espen on July 17, 2007, 9:30 pm

> Is a wax ring the best technology to seal between toilet and flange?
> Since wax is not elastic, slight movement while attaching (or after
> attaching) the toilet back on could cause the seal to become broken.
>
> Any better alternative?

Movement.

I remember clearly the first wax ring I bought.
It was a plumbing supply place in the Bronx over 40 years ago.
Some old guy is standing there with a cigar in his mouth
and he tells me, the secret to a good job is to set the
toilet in plaster.

Being just barely out of high-school, that's exactly what I did.
Put the wax ring in, mixed up a trowel full of plaster and dropped
it on the floor then set the toilet in it and bolted it down.

I never heard that advice again, I don't think I've even seen
it on a.h.r but if you're worried about movement the plaster
is going to be rock hard and along with the bolts, I don't
think there's going to be any wiggling around.


Posted by Oren on July 17, 2007, 10:03 pm
On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 21:30:07 -0400, Dan Espen

>
>> Is a wax ring the best technology to seal between toilet and flange?
>> Since wax is not elastic, slight movement while attaching (or after
>> attaching) the toilet back on could cause the seal to become broken.
>>
>> Any better alternative?
>
>Movement.
>
>I remember clearly the first wax ring I bought.
>It was a plumbing supply place in the Bronx over 40 years ago.
>Some old guy is standing there with a cigar in his mouth
>and he tells me, the secret to a good job is to set the
>toilet in plaster.
>
>Being just barely out of high-school, that's exactly what I did.
>Put the wax ring in, mixed up a trowel full of plaster and dropped
>it on the floor then set the toilet in it and bolted it down.
>
>I never heard that advice again, I don't think I've even seen
>it on a.h.r but if you're worried about movement the plaster
>is going to be rock hard and along with the bolts, I don't
>think there's going to be any wiggling around.

Actually, I've read here about using plaster. I've never done this,
but the thread caught my attention.



--
Oren

"The voices in my head may not be real, but they have some good ideas!"

Posted by valvejob on July 18, 2007, 11:54 am

>Is a wax ring the best technology to seal between toilet and flange?
>Since wax is not elastic, slight movement while attaching (or after
>attaching) the toilet back on could cause the seal to become broken.
>
>Any better alternative?
>

You definitely need to stabilize the toilet so it does NOT wiggle.
If you do that, then the wax ring will seal for 100 years.

If you poorly install it so it wiggles then your home depot or
plumbing shop has some new wax ring replacement materials that are
just for you.





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