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beware of cabinet company brispoli 01-03-2007
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Posted by Pete C. on January 3, 2007, 5:44 pm


bigjim@backpacker.com wrote:
>
> If he can prove the company did not deliver as promised the poster is
> well within his rights to post facts.
>

That's a big if, and he should refrain from spamming until he has a
legal judgment to back it up.

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Posted by George on January 3, 2007, 5:44 pm


bigjim@backpacker.com wrote:
> If he can prove the company did not deliver as promised the poster is
> well within his rights to post facts.
>
> Pete C. wrote:
>> brispoli@sbcglobal.net wrote:
>>> All,
>>> beware of a cabinet company called Gourmet Kitchens Design based out of
>>> Sacramento, CA and has an office in Danville, ca. The owner Rick is a
>>> crook, who writes bad checks. He is untrustworthy and does not do
>>> anything he says he is contracted for. His customer service is the
>>> worst and when you confornt him he lies. His wife Cathy is suspect as
>>> well, only because she probably doesn't know what he does. This
>>> company shafted me on kitchen cabinets worth 100,000 just becuase of
>>> his design mistakes and his inability to fix them. almost two years
>>> later I now have to turn him into the DA's office for writing bad
>>> checks. Stay away
>> You might want to consider whether you want to defend yourself against a
>> slander / libel / defamation lawsuit before your next pass at spamming
>> various newsgroups.
>

The only way he could prove that would be to produce the docket number
where he was found correct. Anything else is conjecture.

Posted by Todd H. on January 3, 2007, 6:26 pm


bigjim@backpacker.com writes:

> If he can prove the company did not deliver as promised the poster is
> well within his rights to post facts.

How can the poster guarantee, however "does not do anything he says he
is contracted for."

Those are silly statements of fact that take only a single completed
contract to disprove.

You're usually safe if you stick to posting factual information you
can prove about your own personal experience, but generalizing is a
good way to get yourself in trouble.

AT any rate the cabinet maker dude sounds like a real ass to be
avoided based on what the guy has posted.

--
Todd H.
http://www.toddh.net/

Posted by Charles Schuler on January 3, 2007, 6:41 pm



> bigjim@backpacker.com writes:
>
>> If he can prove the company did not deliver as promised the poster is
>> well within his rights to post facts.
>
> How can the poster guarantee, however "does not do anything he says he
> is contracted for."
>
> Those are silly statements of fact that take only a single completed
> contract to disprove.
>
> You're usually safe if you stick to posting factual information you
> can prove about your own personal experience, but generalizing is a
> good way to get yourself in trouble.
>
> AT any rate the cabinet maker dude sounds like a real ass to be
> avoided based on what the guy has posted.

I remember the lemon decorated cars parked across the street from auto
dealerships. There were court granted injunctions, in some cases. Now we
have Usenet and don't have to do that. This libel/slander stuff is probably
not applicable in cases such as these as the contractor would have to
demonstrate damage. I would not worry about statements such as the one
below.

"You might want to consider whether you want to defend yourself against a
slander / libel / defamation lawsuit before your next pass at spamming
various newsgroups."



Posted by BZ on January 4, 2007, 10:42 am


Todd H. wrote:

> AT any rate the cabinet maker dude sounds like a real ass to be
> avoided based on what the guy has posted.

I don't want to take sides here because I don't know either party
involved, but I would never make a decision based on a post like that.

I once hired a contractor to do some exterior house repair and painting
for me. He

- hired a teenager who had never used a power washer to wash the house.
The teenager promptly sprayed water into my attic vents before he ran
out of gas and stood around for 30 minutes not knowing what to do.

- used nongalvanized nails to put up exterior siding, which naturally
started rusting through the paint within a week.

- used only one coat of paint on some sections of the house, allowing
the initial gary color of the siding to show through.

- got a bathroom remodel job in the middle of my job and left mine
without saying anything to go do that one.

- ignored so many calls to come back and complete the job that I was
about to go file suit against him when he finally came back and did a
rush-job finish.

Those are all specific, factual claims that give an accurate depiction
of the contractor. The original post here was full of exaggeration and
speculation. It was not so much a warning against a contractor as it is
an angry consumer's venting -- but there are a lot of unreasonable
consumers out there who vent against good, professional contractors
simply because the contractor won't jump through their hoops. The
somewhat irrational nature of the original post makes me suspect that
the fault here does not lie entirely with the contractor -- and maybe
not at all with the contractor.

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