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Posted by CptDondo on January 5, 2007, 12:53 pm


BZ wrote:
> It was not so much a warning against a contractor as it is
> an angry consumer's venting -- but there are a lot of unreasonable
> consumers out there who vent against good, professional contractors
> simply because the contractor won't jump through their hoops. The
> somewhat irrational nature of the original post makes me suspect that
> the fault here does not lie entirely with the contractor -- and maybe
> not at all with the contractor.

Reminds me of a case..... A client hires an architect.

Client claims is unhappy with the architect, refuses to pay for
drawings, fires architect when design is about 60% complete.

Client hires a contractor to build the house based on the incomplete,
unfinished, and unsealed drawings from the architect, that the client
has still not paid for, without knowledge of the architect.

Contractor cannot complete the house based on those plans.

Client sues architect for incompetence and malpractice, based on the
fact that the contractor couldn't finish the house.

Go figure. It cost the architect a bundle to avoid paying for the
house, although the client and the contractor violated several laws and
the county permitting department issued a building permit on the basis
of unsealed drawings, another violation of state law.

I put little stock in customer rants....

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Posted by Goedjn on January 5, 2007, 1:27 pm


wrote:

>BZ wrote:
>> It was not so much a warning against a contractor as it is
>> an angry consumer's venting -- but there are a lot of unreasonable
>> consumers out there who vent against good, professional contractors
>> simply because the contractor won't jump through their hoops. The
>> somewhat irrational nature of the original post makes me suspect that
>> the fault here does not lie entirely with the contractor -- and maybe
>> not at all with the contractor.
>
>Reminds me of a case..... A client hires an architect.
>
>Client claims is unhappy with the architect, refuses to pay for
>drawings, fires architect when design is about 60% complete.
>
>Client hires a contractor to build the house based on the incomplete,
>unfinished, and unsealed drawings from the architect, that the client
>has still not paid for, without knowledge of the architect.
>
>Contractor cannot complete the house based on those plans.
>
>Client sues architect for incompetence and malpractice, based on the
>fact that the contractor couldn't finish the house.
>
>Go figure. It cost the architect a bundle to avoid paying for the
>house, although the client and the contractor violated several laws and
>the county permitting department issued a building permit on the basis
>of unsealed drawings, another violation of state law.
>
>I put little stock in customer rants....

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Posted by # Fred # on January 6, 2007, 1:02 pm



> BZ wrote:
>> It was not so much a warning against a contractor as it is an angry
>> consumer's venting -- but there are a lot of unreasonable consumers out
>> there who vent against good, professional contractors simply because the
>> contractor won't jump through their hoops. The somewhat irrational
>> nature of the original post makes me suspect that the fault here does not
>> lie entirely with the contractor -- and maybe not at all with the
>> contractor.
>
> Reminds me of a case..... A client hires an architect.
>
> Client claims is unhappy with the architect, refuses to pay for drawings,
> fires architect when design is about 60% complete.
>
> Client hires a contractor to build the house based on the incomplete,
> unfinished, and unsealed drawings from the architect, that the client has
> still not paid for, without knowledge of the architect.
>
> Contractor cannot complete the house based on those plans.
>
> Client sues architect for incompetence and malpractice, based on the fact
> that the contractor couldn't finish the house.
>
> Go figure. It cost the architect a bundle to avoid paying for the house,

Another architect without malpractice insurance?

although the client and the contractor violated several laws and
> the county permitting department issued a building permit on the basis of
> unsealed drawings, another violation of state law.
>

Didn't the architect put a lien on the house for non payment? I think if the
homeowner fake the wet stamp on the plans to get it through the permit
department, that's a felony in my state. Anyway looks like the homeowner
could be in a lot of trouble if the architect wants to pursue it.

> I put little stock in customer rants....



Posted by Rick on January 7, 2007, 5:23 am


this is a bullshit story if I ever heard one
most town halls will give you "their" stamp on the plans (don't need
architects stamp)
heck, I could get a building permit if I wrote a plan on a napkin and
town hall approves it ,and they will, as long as you are not building
with engineered lumber.

if the client fired the architect before the plans were finished
the architect is not responsible for any damages.
but should have placed a lien on the property.
and as for the contractor who took the job and didn't complete the
project based on the incomplete plans.
He is still liable to complete the job if under contract.
most contracts state that the project will be completed as per plan.
it sounds like the client was out to screw everyone involved from day 1.
the client must have been a lawyer.





| BZ wrote:
| > It was not so much a warning against a contractor as it is
| > an angry consumer's venting -- but there are a lot of unreasonable
| > consumers out there who vent against good, professional contractors
| > simply because the contractor won't jump through their hoops. The
| > somewhat irrational nature of the original post makes me suspect
that
| > the fault here does not lie entirely with the contractor -- and
maybe
| > not at all with the contractor.
|
| Reminds me of a case..... A client hires an architect.
|
| Client claims is unhappy with the architect, refuses to pay for
| drawings, fires architect when design is about 60% complete.
|
| Client hires a contractor to build the house based on the incomplete,
| unfinished, and unsealed drawings from the architect, that the client
| has still not paid for, without knowledge of the architect.
|
| Contractor cannot complete the house based on those plans.
|
| Client sues architect for incompetence and malpractice, based on the
| fact that the contractor couldn't finish the house.
|
| Go figure. It cost the architect a bundle to avoid paying for the
| house, although the client and the contractor violated several laws
and
| the county permitting department issued a building permit on the basis
| of unsealed drawings, another violation of state law.
|
| I put little stock in customer rants....



Posted by Edwin Pawlowski on January 7, 2007, 7:45 am



> I could get a building permit if I wrote a plan on a napkin and
> town hall approves it ,and they will, as long as you are not building
> with engineered lumber.

Good for you. In my town you won't for a major project, like a house.



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