ceramic tile - Page 3

Posted by RicodJour on October 26, 2009, 1:50 am

> On Sat, 24 Oct 2009 21:24:33 -0700 (PDT), RicodJour

> >> >> I didn't have any tools and it's a newly occupied 2BR apartment wit=

> >> >> no tools and not even a wood yardstick. =A0 I didn't see anything t=

o use

> >> >> as a straight edge, except maybe emptying and removing a dresser
> >> >> drawer, but it wasn't my place to do that.
> >> >Tools? =A0A dresser drawer...? Either you've addled your brain with
> >> >injudicious use of recreational pharmaceuticals, or you're a troll. =

=A0A

> >> >straightedge is never further away than a piece of paper.
> >> I don't think a folded piece of paper would be stiff enough for this
> >> use. =A0At any rate, there was loads to do, and I left several jobs
> >> undone when my visit was over. =A0(some windows didn't stay up, some
> >> hurricane shutters wouldn't latch, screen for the turbo bathtub too
> >> big and wouldn't go in place. =A0Receptacles had layers of paint. =A0N=

> >> door on guest room. =A0Door on linen closet not hinged.) =A0There was
> >> nothing I could do about the floor, so it got no more time than it
> >> did. =A0

> >If you can't determine if there's a noticeable change in height
> >between two tiles with the straight edge of a piece of paper, whether

> Dang it. =A0I told you in the first post that there was a noticeable
> change in height. =A0Lots of places.
> And in the previous post, I told you why I didnt' have time to
> investigate further while I was there.
> I shouldn't have said it might be less than 0.5 mm without saying it
> might also be more. And I'd give you 2 to 1 odds that the differences
> are between 0.5 mm and 1 mm.
> All I wanted to know was if 0.5 mm is within professional standards,
> not all this other advice you've been giving me.

> >folded or not, then there is no gap to speak of and you're looking for
> >problems and finding them where there aren't any.

> No. =A0There are plenty of problems with the floor, every place
> adjoining tiles aren't the same height.

> >It's also an APARTMENT. =A0

> It's a condo. =A0 He owns it. =A0 =A0And the tile floor is in every room.

> >I hope you didn't point out your imaginary
> >problem to your brother in his new place. =A0

> No, of course not, and not because they're imaginary.

> >A large part of being
> >helpful is learning when to keep your mouth shut.

> That applies to you too.

So, to sum things up:
- an apartment is a condo
- you're a handy guy with tools, but you can't figure out how to find
a straightedge*
- you shouldn't have said it was one measurement because it might have
been more

Dude, even if you're not, you are a troll.

R

* Available straightedges (very incomplete list): A book, magazine,
broom handle, cereal box, bottle of wine, cutting board, etc., etc.

Posted by DerbyDad03 on October 22, 2009, 4:14 pm

> I was visiting my brother and they have 12" ceramic tile in most
> rooms.
> A lot of the tiles are about a half millimeter higher or lower than
> the one next to it. =A0 Maybe less, but I can easily feel the difference
> with my fingers, and when pushing a dresser, the dresser has to be
> lifted up to get onto the next tile.
> Is this work within professional standards?

I had to convert that to inches to get a clearer picture of the
problem.

.5 mm =3D .0197 inches - and you said "maybe less".

Assuming there is a grout line between the tiles, how could you even
tell that some tiles are off by such a miniscule amount?

Posted by on October 24, 2009, 2:21 pm

> > I was visiting my brother and they have 12" ceramic tile in most
> > rooms.
> > A lot of the tiles are about a half millimeter higher or lower than
> > the one next to it. =A0 Maybe less, but I can easily feel the differenc=

> > with my fingers, and when pushing a dresser, the dresser has to be
> > lifted up to get onto the next tile.
> > Is this work within professional standards?

> I had to convert that to inches to get a clearer picture of the
> problem.
> .5 mm =3D .0197 inches - and you said "maybe less".
> Assuming there is a grout line between the tiles, how could you even
> tell that some tiles are off by such a miniscule amount?

That's what I was thinking too. .5mm is about 1/50 of an inch.
That would certainly seem to me to be within reasonable standards.

Posted by John Grabowski on October 22, 2009, 4:36 pm

>I was visiting my brother and they have 12" ceramic tile in most
> rooms.
> A lot of the tiles are about a half millimeter higher or lower than
> the one next to it. Maybe less, but I can easily feel the difference
> with my fingers, and when pushing a dresser, the dresser has to be
> lifted up to get onto the next tile.
> Is this work within professional standards?

*Every professional has his own standards. If this was a low bid, fast
install, get in and get out job I think those tolerances are pretty good.
If this is a multi-million dollar celebrity mansion I would say that is
unacceptable.

Posted by Master Betty on October 22, 2009, 4:56 pm

> >I was visiting my brother and they have 12" ceramic tile in most
>> rooms.
>> A lot of the tiles are about a half millimeter higher or lower than
>> the one next to it. Maybe less, but I can easily feel the difference
>> with my fingers, and when pushing a dresser, the dresser has to be
>> lifted up to get onto the next tile.
>> Is this work within professional standards?

> *Every professional has his own standards. If this was a low bid, fast
> install, get in and get out job I think those tolerances are pretty good.
> If this is a multi-million dollar celebrity mansion I would say that is
> unacceptable.

That seems like strange logic.

If you get paid less, you'd do the job intentionally sloppy? I'd think a
competent tile person would have to try to screw it up.

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