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Posted by John Grabowski on October 22, 2009, 5:52 pm

>> >I was visiting my brother and they have 12" ceramic tile in most
>>> rooms.
>>> A lot of the tiles are about a half millimeter higher or lower than
>>> the one next to it. Maybe less, but I can easily feel the difference
>>> with my fingers, and when pushing a dresser, the dresser has to be
>>> lifted up to get onto the next tile.
>>> Is this work within professional standards?

>> *Every professional has his own standards. If this was a low bid, fast
>> install, get in and get out job I think those tolerances are pretty good.
>> If this is a multi-million dollar celebrity mansion I would say that is
>> unacceptable.

> That seems like strange logic.
> If you get paid less, you'd do the job intentionally sloppy? I'd think a
> competent tile person would have to try to screw it up.

*No, not what I was thinking. Some contractors are low bid types who do
work for builders. In order to make money they must go fast and do volume
work. Something suffers when speed is a priority. Some homeowners are more
concerned with the quality of the job and are willing to pay a premium for
an outstanding job.

Posted by HeyBub on October 22, 2009, 5:54 pm

Master Betty wrote:

>>> I was visiting my brother and they have 12" ceramic tile in most
>>> rooms.
>>> A lot of the tiles are about a half millimeter higher or lower than
>>> the one next to it. Maybe less, but I can easily feel the
>>> difference with my fingers, and when pushing a dresser, the dresser
>>> has to be lifted up to get onto the next tile.
>>> Is this work within professional standards?

>> *Every professional has his own standards. If this was a low bid,
>> fast install, get in and get out job I think those tolerances are
>> pretty good. If this is a multi-million dollar celebrity mansion I
>> would say that is unacceptable.

> That seems like strange logic.
> If you get paid less, you'd do the job intentionally sloppy? I'd
> think a competent tile person would have to try to screw it up.

Fast, correct, cheap. Pick two.

Posted by Master Betty on October 22, 2009, 5:59 pm

> Master Betty wrote:

>>>> I was visiting my brother and they have 12" ceramic tile in most
>>>> rooms.
>>>> A lot of the tiles are about a half millimeter higher or lower than
>>>> the one next to it. Maybe less, but I can easily feel the
>>>> difference with my fingers, and when pushing a dresser, the dresser
>>>> has to be lifted up to get onto the next tile.
>>>> Is this work within professional standards?
>>> *Every professional has his own standards. If this was a low bid,
>>> fast install, get in and get out job I think those tolerances are
>>> pretty good. If this is a multi-million dollar celebrity mansion I
>>> would say that is unacceptable.

>> That seems like strange logic.
>> If you get paid less, you'd do the job intentionally sloppy? I'd
>> think a competent tile person would have to try to screw it up.

> Fast, correct, cheap. Pick two.

Maybe I'm not thinking in the real world but usually the better workers
"are" the faster workers.

For example: If a barber is taking too long to cut my hair I know I won't
like the results.

A cheaper tile job to me means cheaper tile. Not sloppy installation.

Jim

Posted by LouB on October 22, 2009, 8:09 pm

Master Betty wrote:

>> Master Betty wrote:

>>>>> I was visiting my brother and they have 12" ceramic tile in most
>>>>> rooms.
>>>>> A lot of the tiles are about a half millimeter higher or lower than
>>>>> the one next to it. Maybe less, but I can easily feel the
>>>>> difference with my fingers, and when pushing a dresser, the dresser
>>>>> has to be lifted up to get onto the next tile.
>>>>> Is this work within professional standards?
>>>> *Every professional has his own standards. If this was a low bid,
>>>> fast install, get in and get out job I think those tolerances are
>>>> pretty good. If this is a multi-million dollar celebrity mansion I
>>>> would say that is unacceptable.
>>> That seems like strange logic.
>>> If you get paid less, you'd do the job intentionally sloppy? I'd
>>> think a competent tile person would have to try to screw it up.

>> Fast, correct, cheap. Pick two.

>
> Maybe I'm not thinking in the real world but usually the better workers
> "are" the faster workers.
>
> For example: If a barber is taking too long to cut my hair I know I won't
> like the results.
>
> A cheaper tile job to me means cheaper tile. Not sloppy installation.
>
> Jim
>
>

Could well be both or an inexperienced person.

Lou

Posted by DD_BobK on October 23, 2009, 1:42 am

> > Master Betty wrote:

> >>>> I was visiting my brother and they have 12" ceramic tile in most
> >>>> rooms.
> >>>> A lot of the tiles are about a half millimeter higher or lower than
> >>>> the one next to it. =A0 Maybe less, but I can easily feel the
> >>>> difference with my fingers, and when pushing a dresser, the dresser
> >>>> has to be lifted up to get onto the next tile.
> >>>> Is this work within professional standards?
> >>> *Every professional has his own standards. If this was a low bid,
> >>> fast install, get in and get out job I think those tolerances are
> >>> pretty good. If this is a multi-million dollar celebrity mansion I
> >>> would say that is unacceptable.
> >> That seems like strange logic.
> >> If you get paid less, you'd do the job intentionally sloppy? I'd
> >> think a competent tile person would have to try to screw it up.

> > Fast, correct, cheap. Pick two.

> Maybe I'm not thinking in the real world but usually the better workers
> "are" the faster workers.
> For example: If a barber is taking too long to cut my hair I know I won't
> like the results.
> A cheaper tile job to me means cheaper tile. Not sloppy installation.
> Jim

your POV might be correct in a parallel universe but in my experience
HeyBub's comment is "spot on"

or as we say "fast, cheap or good" ..... pick the two you'll be
happiest with...... :)

A guy who's trying to deliver on a "cheap" job with skimp on mat'l AND
labor cost to minimize the overall cost

Very few people intentionally do sloppy work but the realities of
business & low bids force workers to cut corners and accept lessor
results.
Just the facts. :(

cheers
Bob

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