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commerical building fire sprinklers dchou4u 10-31-2006
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Posted by on October 31, 2006, 1:25 pm


Last year we purchased a brand new industrial/office building in Orange
County, CA. The building came with fire sprinklers installed and there
is also a phone line dedicated to call 911 should a fire occur. We are
paying for this phone line apart from the regular phone lines that we
are paying for our normal office use.
I am wondering if there is any mandatory code requirement to have this
fire service phone line standby at all times? Or is it OK to disconnect
this phone line service, but of course, keeping the sprinklers.

Any tips are welcome.

Thanks


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Posted by Bob F on October 31, 2006, 1:26 pm



> Last year we purchased a brand new industrial/office building in Orange
> County, CA. The building came with fire sprinklers installed and there
> is also a phone line dedicated to call 911 should a fire occur. We are
> paying for this phone line apart from the regular phone lines that we
> are paying for our normal office use.
> I am wondering if there is any mandatory code requirement to have this
> fire service phone line standby at all times? Or is it OK to disconnect
> this phone line service, but of course, keeping the sprinklers.
>
> Any tips are welcome.

Have you considered talking to the fire department, or appropriate
enforcement agancy?

Bob



Posted by Goedjn on October 31, 2006, 2:46 pm


On 31 Oct 2006 10:25:00 -0800, dchou4u@hotmail.com wrote:

>Last year we purchased a brand new industrial/office building in Orange
>County, CA. The building came with fire sprinklers installed and there
>is also a phone line dedicated to call 911 should a fire occur. We are
>paying for this phone line apart from the regular phone lines that we
>are paying for our normal office use.
>I am wondering if there is any mandatory code requirement to have this
>fire service phone line standby at all times? Or is it OK to disconnect
>this phone line service, but of course, keeping the sprinklers.
>
>Any tips are welcome.


Ask your municipality. Why would you want to shut off the alarm
monitor line anyway? What's it costing you, $40 a month?


Posted by N8N on October 31, 2006, 2:56 pm



dchou4u@hotmail.com wrote:
> Last year we purchased a brand new industrial/office building in Orange
> County, CA. The building came with fire sprinklers installed and there
> is also a phone line dedicated to call 911 should a fire occur. We are
> paying for this phone line apart from the regular phone lines that we
> are paying for our normal office use.
> I am wondering if there is any mandatory code requirement to have this
> fire service phone line standby at all times? Or is it OK to disconnect
> this phone line service, but of course, keeping the sprinklers.
>
> Any tips are welcome.
>
> Thanks

I don't know about CA but here (NoVA/DC) you are required to have a
dedicated phone line for your fire alarm system's dialer, and also to
maintain a monitoring service (assuming that the building is not
occupied 24/7 and that the FACP does not report to a continuously
occupied station such as a PBX room or similar) It might even be a
requirement in NFPA 72 but I am too lazy to look it up right now. In
any case be vewwy, vewwy caweful about discontinuing services that you
may be required to maintain.

If nothing else, wouldn't you want the FD to respond to a fire
condition at your building?

nate


Posted by Edwin Pawlowski on October 31, 2006, 3:08 pm



> Last year we purchased a brand new industrial/office building in Orange
> County, CA. The building came with fire sprinklers installed and there
> is also a phone line dedicated to call 911 should a fire occur. We are
> paying for this phone line apart from the regular phone lines that we
> are paying for our normal office use.
> I am wondering if there is any mandatory code requirement to have this
> fire service phone line standby at all times? Or is it OK to disconnect
> this phone line service, but of course, keeping the sprinklers.
>
> Any tips are welcome.

Probably yes. Call the fire chief. Most sprinkler alarms require some sort
of monitoring. Larger buildings require a call box direct to the fire
department. Only your local officials can tell you exactly what is needed.

Oh, usually, systems must be checked regularly by an authorized party.
Alarm checks once month, flow tests once a year.



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