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concrete floor sealer? to prevent damp before laying vinyl tiles jim 12-06-2006
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Posted by HeyBub on December 6, 2006, 5:16 pm


jim wrote:
> Hmmm, yes i could have levelled on top of old tiles, but i have taken
> half of them up now, erm asbestos!
> wish id known before hand, they are
> coming up easy with a rotary stop chiseller, but if they contain
> asbestos then i have most certainly inhaled some :((.

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Posted by Joseph Meehan on December 6, 2006, 10:37 am


jim wrote:
> Hi, i will soon be laying karndean vinyl floor planks in my house, it
> is a 1946 semi and i am concerned whether it has a dpm under the
> concrete floor, it has old black tiles down at the moment which i
> found under the carpet not sure what they are made of but they are
> brittle and blown on the corners (white dust around the edges), they
> seem quite well fixed to the concret floor, it looks there is bitumen
> on some of the tiles, does anyone know the likelihood of ther e being
> a dpm under the concrete for this age of house. I dont have any damp
> problems other than the white dust around the edges of these old
> tiles, which i think is due to damp of some sort, and i dont want to
> lay new floor without treating the concret first. would bitumen do
> the job if i spread sand over the top before i put self level
> compound down?
>
> Im planning to lift the tiles ,self level with latex, and lay the
> floor with pressure sensitive adhesive. do i need to prime the
> concrete before latex if so what with? and then do i need to prime
> the latex before the adhesive?
> Also can i lay the latex in two parts ( i have all downstairs to do)or
> does it need to go down all at once. Any advice would be much
> appreciated. Thanks

As noted, beware of asbestos. Also any moisture issues need to be
addressed by keeping the water away. You need to keep it away from the
OUTSIDE of the foundation.

--
Joseph Meehan

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Posted by Joseph Meehan on December 6, 2006, 10:35 am


Joseph Meehan wrote:
> ... As noted, beware of asbestos. Also any moisture issues need to be
> addressed by keeping the water away. You need to keep it away from
> the OUTSIDE of the foundation.

Forgot to add. The floor is likely cool. That means any moisture in
the air will condense there. What you see may well be from condensation.


--
Joseph Meehan

Dia 's Muire duit




Posted by Bob on December 6, 2006, 5:47 pm



jim wrote:
> Hi, i will soon be laying karndean vinyl floor planks in my house, it
> is a 1946 semi and i am concerned whether it has a dpm under the
> concrete floor, it has old black tiles down at the moment which i found
> under the carpet not sure what they are made of but they are brittle
> and blown on the corners (white dust around the edges), they seem quite
> well fixed to the concret floor, it looks there is bitumen on some of
> the tiles, does anyone know the likelihood of ther e being a dpm under
> the concrete for this age of house. I dont have any damp problems other
> than the white dust around the edges of these old tiles, which i think
> is due to damp of some sort, and i dont want to lay new floor without
> treating the concret first. would bitumen do the job if i spread sand
> over the top before i put self level compound down?
>
> Im planning to lift the tiles ,self level with latex, and lay the floor
> with pressure sensitive adhesive. do i need to prime the concrete
> before latex if so what with? and then do i need to prime the latex
> before the adhesive?
> Also can i lay the latex in two parts ( i have all downstairs to do)or
> does it need to go down all at once. Any advice would be much
> appreciated. Thanks

The white dust is probably from the carpet adhesive - fiber to backing.
If the old tile is 9" square it is highly likely it is asbestos tile.
If it is 12" tile, it could be but probably not.
Asbestos is like many other "hazardous" materials. If 100 people had
the same exposure, much less than 10% would be affected. It all
depends on how your body reacts to it.


Posted by jim on December 6, 2006, 6:54 pm



Yes they are 9" . The white dust is the concrete and it is around the
edges of the tiles i think it is where moisture from the air has got to
the concrete between the gaps. The concrete is actually very dry, i
just want to make sure it stays dry.
Oh well i may as well take up smoking. :))


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