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condensate pump for dehumidifier? Nate Nagel 07-27-2008
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Posted by Nate Nagel on July 27, 2008, 3:38 pm


Hi guys,

I'd like to set up a dehumidifier in my basement so it doesn't have to
be emptied all the time. Due to space considerations I don't think
tying it into my existing condensate pump is practical; that is jammed
between the furnace and the hot water heater, near the clothes dryer.
So the obvious solution would be to just add another condensate pump to
get the water over to the deep sink.

Question is, are there any semi-affordable ones that work well? I've
seen comments here before to the effect of "just get a $30 condensate
pump and hook it up" and I am having a hard time finding one. They're
about $80 at the big boxes nearby, and looking online the cheapest seems
to be about $40 plus shipping. Obviously I'm leaning towards ordering
online but don't have any experience with selecting one, so what's a
good brand? I'd need one that could lift the water about 8 feet, maybe
15 feet horizontally, then drop about 4 feet into the sink. Is that an
unusual application that would require a heavier duty unit than the
cheapest models?

nate

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Posted by Nate Nagel on July 27, 2008, 4:16 pm


Nate Nagel wrote:
> Hi guys,
>
> I'd like to set up a dehumidifier in my basement so it doesn't have to
> be emptied all the time. Due to space considerations I don't think
> tying it into my existing condensate pump is practical; that is jammed
> between the furnace and the hot water heater, near the clothes dryer. So
> the obvious solution would be to just add another condensate pump to get
> the water over to the deep sink.
>
> Question is, are there any semi-affordable ones that work well? I've
> seen comments here before to the effect of "just get a $30 condensate
> pump and hook it up" and I am having a hard time finding one. They're
> about $80 at the big boxes nearby, and looking online the cheapest seems
> to be about $40 plus shipping. Obviously I'm leaning towards ordering
> online but don't have any experience with selecting one, so what's a
> good brand? I'd need one that could lift the water about 8 feet, maybe
> 15 feet horizontally, then drop about 4 feet into the sink. Is that an
> unusual application that would require a heavier duty unit than the
> cheapest models?
>
> nate
>

Damn this is an expensive week for me. I just went to empty the bucket
in the old dehumidifier, which I moved out to the garage. Apparently
after I took it out there yesterday it sucked out about 1 pint of water
and then the compressor locked up - this was maybe 30 hours ago. The
whole purpose of buying a new dehumidifier was so that I could put one
in my garage. SUCK!

As an aside, the old dehumidifier just had the little rotating knob
humidistat on it and I'd set it for slightly higher than "normal"
humidity. It cycled on and off, more off than on. The new one has a
digital humidistat so I set it for 55% RH because I've heard that to
minimize all of the bad things that can happen to your basement due to
incorrect humidity you should be in the 45-55% range. Apparently the
old dehumidifier was actually set for about 60 to 65% RH. New unit
showed 65% when I turned it on, quickly dropped to 60, now is showing
55% but have not heard it shut off yet (granted, I haven't been in my
basement for the whole time period.) So I assume that it just displays
in 5% increments and showing 55% means it's probably in the range of
52.5-57.5%. This is a 45 pint unit and based on the amount of water
it's pulled out, I don't know that I suspect that there's a problem with
the unit; more that my house is very open and it would seem that due to
the climate (this AM: almost 90 degrees and 57% RH outside; now, 77
degrees and raining) the humidity in the whole house is higher than 55%
and trying to suck it down to that is taxing the unit. Any real problem
just leaving it at 60% and letting it go, even if that isn't "ideal?"

nate

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Posted by cshenk on July 27, 2008, 4:35 pm


"Nate Nagel" <> wrote

> Damn this is an expensive week for me.

(Sad Smile, I know the feeling)

> the unit; more that my house is very open and it would seem that due to
> the climate (this AM: almost 90 degrees and 57% RH outside; now, 77
> degrees and raining) the humidity in the whole house is higher than 55%
> and trying to suck it down to that is taxing the unit. Any real problem
> just leaving it at 60% and letting it go, even if that isn't "ideal?"

Thats what I would do. The alternative comes to mind that you may want a
second discretely placed unit inside the house?



Posted by Dave Martindale on July 28, 2008, 4:09 pm



>As an aside, the old dehumidifier just had the little rotating knob
>humidistat on it and I'd set it for slightly higher than "normal"
>humidity. It cycled on and off, more off than on. The new one has a
>digital humidistat so I set it for 55% RH because I've heard that to
>minimize all of the bad things that can happen to your basement due to
>incorrect humidity you should be in the 45-55% range. Apparently the
>old dehumidifier was actually set for about 60 to 65% RH. New unit
>showed 65% when I turned it on, quickly dropped to 60, now is showing
>55% but have not heard it shut off yet (granted, I haven't been in my
>basement for the whole time period.)

Leave it alone for a day or two, then see if it's still running
constantly. If your old dehumidifier was set to 65%, then *everything*
in your basement that can absorb water vapour has about that level of
absorbed water. If you try to bring the humidity down to 55%,
everything is going to be "bleeding" moisture into the air for a while -
your drywall and studs, your bookshelfs, all the books, etc. Once the
humidity has been 55% for a while, everything else will stabilize at
that level, and the dehumidifier will have to run less.

>So I assume that it just displays
>in 5% increments and showing 55% means it's probably in the range of
>52.5-57.5%. This is a 45 pint unit and based on the amount of water
>it's pulled out, I don't know that I suspect that there's a problem with
>the unit; more that my house is very open and it would seem that due to
>the climate (this AM: almost 90 degrees and 57% RH outside; now, 77
>degrees and raining) the humidity in the whole house is higher than 55%
>and trying to suck it down to that is taxing the unit. Any real problem
>just leaving it at 60% and letting it go, even if that isn't "ideal?"

If outside air can flow freely through your house, you are trying to
dehumidify the outdoors. That is a hopeless task. You need to provide
some barrier between inside and outside air.

On the other hand, it's not "taxing" your unit to run all the time; it
oought to be built to deal with that. At worst, it won't be able to
keep the humidity down to what you want.

        Dave

Posted by Stormin Mormon on July 28, 2008, 11:08 pm


At my parents house, we put a couple boards over the laundry sink, and let
the dehum drip into the sink.

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