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connecting multi-strand to copper wire for lighting bob_monkhouse35 02-28-2008
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Posted by jJim McLaughlin on February 28, 2008, 2:59 pm
Mark Lloyd wrote:


>
> What if you have a copper feeder, and TWO stranded wires?


is there an intelligent or intelligible question somewhere in Mr.
Lloyd's post?

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Posted by bud-- on February 29, 2008, 2:22 am
Mark Lloyd wrote:
>
> What if you have a copper feeder, and TWO stranded wires?
.
Doesn't sound like that much problem. I use wire nuts with a 'live
spring'. The spring doesn't have plastic right behind it and deforms
over the wires making a more secure connection (IMHO). If you take a
wire nut off that has been tightened you can see the deformation. (Far
as I know these don't exist in a size smaller than yellow.)

Use wire combinations the manufacturer indicates are in the capability
of the wire nut. As suggested elsewhere I extend stranded wires slightly
past solid.

IMHO 2 #12 solids and a stranded #18 is a bigger problem - the #18 can
sit in the 'valley' between the solids. I twist the solids and keep the
smaller wire straight.

--
bud--

Posted by TKM on February 29, 2008, 5:16 pm

> Mark Lloyd wrote:
>>
>> What if you have a copper feeder, and TWO stranded wires?
> .
> Doesn't sound like that much problem. I use wire nuts with a 'live
> spring'. The spring doesn't have plastic right behind it and deforms over
> the wires making a more secure connection (IMHO). If you take a wire nut
> off that has been tightened you can see the deformation. (Far as I know
> these don't exist in a size smaller than yellow.)
>
> Use wire combinations the manufacturer indicates are in the capability of
> the wire nut. As suggested elsewhere I extend stranded wires slightly past
> solid.
>
> IMHO 2 #12 solids and a stranded #18 is a bigger problem - the #18 can sit
> in the 'valley' between the solids. I twist the solids and keep the
> smaller wire straight.
>
> --
> bud--

A nice tight wire nut connection has always worked for me even with a
mixture of solid and stranded wires and I've taken the connections apart
several times afterward to make sure there was good contact area. I agree
that pre-twisting the solids helps. In earlier days, I just soldered the
bundle and put a wire nut over the top for insulation.

TKM



Posted by Kevin Ricks on February 28, 2008, 3:28 pm
bob_monkhouse35@hotmail.com wrote:
> Does anyone know the best way to connect a multi-strand wire to copper
> wire?
> This is for a recessed light in the ceiling of our top floor hallway.
> Therefore the housing for the light is going in the attic/roof. The
> housing itself includes the multi-strand wire, that I have to connect
> the copper wire to that is fed in from the light switch.
>
> Right now, I have used the screw on cone shaped type connectors (I
> forget what they're called ... merriates????) but the connection does
> not look that good - the multi-strand wire seems to fray quite easily.
>
> Thx!!

This is what I do: Strip and/or clip the solid wire so that the exposed
wire is short or about 1/2 the length of the wire nut. I strip the
stranded wires a bit longer maybe full length of wire nut. (I am using
the yellow color/size wire nuts.). I then use lineman or needle nose
pliers and bend the ends of the solid wires a bit so that the wires have
a bit of a ripple. Then wrap stranded wires around the solid wire and
twist on nut as normal.
I never use the small wire nuts that come with the fixture.

Kevin

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