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Posted by hallerb@aol.com on June 9, 2006, 5:42 pm
No wrote:
> Steve B wrote:
> >> Hello - I bought a Vermont Castings VM400 grill at HomeCheapo. One reason
> >> I bought it was because it was "field upgradeable" to natural gas. Well,
> >> one year later I am looking for the parts. They no longer make available
> >> the parts due to "safety reasons". What a pain. This particular model is
> >> sold only through HD. Vermont castings dealers refer me directly to CFM
> >> corp. CFM refuses to sell the kit, nor supply it to a gas installer. They
> >> will not even sell me the complete guts for a NG unit.
> >>
> >> My guess would be that another parts kit for a different model would work
> >> fine. I have no idea which ones would work or not. Any clues? CFM
> >> suggested talking to a gas man. I'm sure the gas man will say year, get me
> >> the parts and I'll do it. The local high end BBQ place will do the install
> >> if I give them the parts. They only have the parts for the high end ones
> >> they sell. No comments from them if they may or may not be compatible.
> >>
> >> I am very handy and comfortable doing this myself if I can get the parts.
> >>
> >> Any suggestions?
> >
> > Start at the beginning. Usually, when you buy a grill, or a water heater or
> > a dryer, they give you an extra set of orifices so that you can change back
> > and forth. I am thinking that you didn't get this when you bought yours.
> >
> > You say you are handy with tools and such. Take the thing apart, and remove
> > the orifices. Take them down to the local Gas Supplier and see if you can
> > match them up. These things aren't rocket surgery, and maybe you can just
> > fine a helpful teknogeek that will find you the right thing. Look on the
> > Internet.
> >
> > That being said, it MAY or MAY NOT be the simple fix. After the orifice
> > change, you will probably have to change your air mix adjustment, a simple
> > thing. That's the air mix baffle that turns around when you loosen the
> > Phillips screw and lets you get the yellow out of the flame.
> > You will have to put on a new supply hose.
> >
> > NOW, if your manufacturer actually has different BURNERS for LPG and natural
> > gas, you might have to change the whole burner assembly. For that, you
> > would have to measure and see if you can get one from the supplier, or find
> > one to fit.
> >
> > I have a Vermont Castings grill and really like it. Mine is propane. I did
> > see VC natural gas grills for sale when I bought mine, but didn't look close
> > to see if they had the same burners.
> >
> > So, start taking it apart. It might be as simple as changing orifices and
> > the hose. If the propane orifices are smaller than the natural gas ones,
> > you might risk drilling out a set of them to the specs of natural gas
> > orifices.
> >
> > As a last resort, you might consider leaving it like it is, and saving time
> > and money.
> >
> > Steve
> >
> >
> Thanks - I am not inclined to start drilling orifices or anything like
> that. The burners are the same, I would assume a different regulator,
> orifices and and adjustment to the O2 entry would be required. I may do
> as you said and take the parts to my local high end BBQ dealer and see
> if they have parts from another that will fit. Of course I will need the
> flex line, regulator and such anyway. if I find what I want then its a
> trip to plumbing supply for some black pipe, fittings and a shut-off
> valve. No sweat there (literally).
>
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the NG upgrade will degrade the maximum BTUs available since propane
has more heat energy than natural gas....
if your into searing burgers it mau not work as well:( also check out
this group...
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.food.barbecue?lnk=la&hl=en they are
friendly and helpful
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