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Posted by David Nebenzahl on October 20, 2009, 5:37 pm
On 10/20/2009 12:59 PM Jim Elbrecht spake thus:
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>>On 10/20/2009 11:28 AM Heathcliff spake thus:
>>> I have a couple rooms where the old plaster ceilings are stained,
>>> cracked, etc. - I am thinking the easiest thing to do might be to just
>>> have a layer of drywall put over them. (note - yes I have fixed the
>>> roof leak that led to the stains etc.) There's no cove molding or
>>> anything to worry about; I think the half inch less headroom would not
>>> be an issue. I'll probably have pros do it and just do the painting
>>> myself. Just wondering if anyone has done this, did it work OK, etc.
>> Yes, and no need to use 1/2" drywall. Get the 1/4" stuff; much
>> easier to work with.
>
> This is sarcasm, right? Or have you never tried to use 1/4"
> overhead? I'm old & weak but wouldn't use anything less than 1/2"
> on a ceiling. [and I doubt I'd try to make it look good over
> anything but a really good lathe/plaster ceiling. One that was so
> good I'd likely just patch it anyway] I've always used 2x4 deadmen
> & worked alone-- maybe a crew and sheetrock lift would make1/4"
> feasible.
Read the OP's message again, carefully. This is going over an existing
plaster ceiling; stained, but presumably otherwise in good condition. So
why would you *not* want to use 1/4" drywall? By the way, I have done
this, and it works fine.
And also by the way, it's "lath". Lathe is a rotary machine.
--
Found--the gene that causes belief in genetic determinism
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Posted by Colbyt on October 20, 2009, 5:58 pm
> On 10/20/2009 12:59 PM Jim Elbrecht spake thus:
> Read the OP's message again, carefully. This is going over an existing
> plaster ceiling; stained, but presumably otherwise in good condition. So
> why would you *not* want to use 1/4" drywall? By the way, I have done
> this, and it works fine.
Price the stuff out. 1/4 cost way more than 1/2 or 3/8. Plus the hassle of
getting it up there without breaking it.
No way I would use 1/4 on a ceiling and I can't lift crap anymore.
Colbyt
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Posted by Jim Elbrecht on October 20, 2009, 7:05 pm
I left the whole thing so *you* could" Read the OP's message again,
carefully.".
>On 10/20/2009 12:59 PM Jim Elbrecht spake thus:
>>
>>>On 10/20/2009 11:28 AM Heathcliff spake thus:
>>>> I have a couple rooms where the old plaster ceilings are stained,
>>>> cracked, etc. - I am thinking the easiest thing to do might be to just
>>>> have a layer of drywall put over them. (note - yes I have fixed the
>>>> roof leak that led to the stains etc.) There's no cove molding or
>>>> anything to worry about; I think the half inch less headroom would not
>>>> be an issue. I'll probably have pros do it and just do the painting
>>>> myself. Just wondering if anyone has done this, did it work OK, etc.
>>> Yes, and no need to use 1/2" drywall. Get the 1/4" stuff; much
>>> easier to work with.
>>
>> This is sarcasm, right? Or have you never tried to use 1/4"
>> overhead? I'm old & weak but wouldn't use anything less than 1/2"
>> on a ceiling. [and I doubt I'd try to make it look good over
>> anything but a really good lathe/plaster ceiling. One that was so
>> good I'd likely just patch it anyway] I've always used 2x4 deadmen
>> & worked alone-- maybe a crew and sheetrock lift would make1/4"
>> feasible.
>Read the OP's message again, carefully. This is going over an existing
>plaster ceiling; stained, but presumably otherwise in good condition.
Except for the "cracked, etc." part. If it was just stained, I'm
guessing he'd paint it.
>So
>why would you *not* want to use 1/4" drywall? By the way, I have done
>this, and it works fine.
Aside from the extra cost, it is damn near impossible to work with
because it breaks so easy. It is also a lot more unforgiving when
going over a less than perfect backer- nails pull through- it waves.
>And also by the way, it's "lath". Lathe is a rotary machine.
So shoot me.
Jim
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Posted by Colbyt on October 20, 2009, 4:03 pm
>I have a couple rooms where the old plaster ceilings are stained,
> cracked, etc. - I am thinking the easiest thing to do might be to just
> have a layer of drywall put over them. (note - yes I have fixed the
> roof leak that led to the stains etc.) There's no cove molding or
> anything to worry about; I think the half inch less headroom would not
> be an issue. I'll probably have pros do it and just do the painting
> myself. Just wondering if anyone has done this, did it work OK, etc.
> -- H
It will work fine if the dw is screwed to ceiling joists. Some future
potential problems if it is only screwed to the lath.
It is quite often easier to add cheap furring strips across the joists at a
perfect 16" OC so that the seams all line up properly with the drywall. The
1.25" will never be missed. Back in those days 16" OC was approximate.
--
Colbyt
Please come visit www.househomerepair.com
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Posted by Phisherman on October 20, 2009, 6:03 pm
On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 11:28:44 -0700 (PDT), Heathcliff
>I have a couple rooms where the old plaster ceilings are stained,
>cracked, etc. - I am thinking the easiest thing to do might be to just
>have a layer of drywall put over them. (note - yes I have fixed the
>roof leak that led to the stains etc.) There's no cove molding or
>anything to worry about; I think the half inch less headroom would not
>be an issue. I'll probably have pros do it and just do the painting
>myself. Just wondering if anyone has done this, did it work OK, etc.
>-- H
I see nothing wrong doing this. You may need to reset the ceiling
light electrical box such that the edge comes to the ceiling surface,
or buy an electrical extension. Also, find the joists. Ceiling
drywall needs more screws than when installed on a wall. Strange as
it may be, drywall has a "grain" and is stronger lengthwise than
crosswise. I've done drywall ceilings, it is not difficult, stilts
help.
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