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electrical code question Nate Nagel 11-05-2009
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Posted by Nate Nagel on November 5, 2009, 9:48 pm


can you use metal switch plates and receptacle covers on an ungrounded
circuit protected by a GFCI, or ONLY on a grounded circuit?

I think SWMBO has changed her mind on decoration for the living room,
and I happen to have a stack of the good 40 thou beveled edge brass
plates (leftovers from "my" room) but am unsure if it's copacetic to use
them...

nate

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Posted by RBM on November 5, 2009, 10:36 pm



> can you use metal switch plates and receptacle covers on an ungrounded
> circuit protected by a GFCI, or ONLY on a grounded circuit?
> I think SWMBO has changed her mind on decoration for the living room,
> and I happen to have a stack of the good 40 thou beveled edge brass
> plates (leftovers from "my" room) but am unsure if it's copacetic to use
> them...
> nate
> --
> replace "roosters" with "cox" to reply.
> http://members.cox.net/njnagel


It's fine.



Posted by Bill on November 7, 2009, 10:45 am


"Nate Nagel" wrote in message
> can you use metal switch plates and receptacle covers on an ungrounded
> circuit protected by a GFCI, or ONLY on a grounded circuit?

New code for "new wiring" is that all metal associated with electrical
devices is grounded.

With that said, it is safer when using metal plates if the outlet or switch
is grounded. And it is safer if the circuit is on a GFCI if it is not
grounded.

What happens is sometimes wires can melt and come loose. Then touch a metal
object inside an electrical box. For the times when this may occur, it is
best that all metal parts be grounded or the circuit protected by a GFCI.

So yes people have in the past been shocked by touching metal plates when
certain malfunctions occur. Thus the reason they want these to be grounded -
just in case!



Posted by Nate Nagel on November 7, 2009, 10:51 am


Bill wrote:
> "Nate Nagel" wrote in message
>> can you use metal switch plates and receptacle covers on an ungrounded
>> circuit protected by a GFCI, or ONLY on a grounded circuit?
>
> New code for "new wiring" is that all metal associated with electrical
> devices is grounded.
>
> With that said, it is safer when using metal plates if the outlet or switch
> is grounded. And it is safer if the circuit is on a GFCI if it is not
> grounded.
>
> What happens is sometimes wires can melt and come loose. Then touch a metal
> object inside an electrical box. For the times when this may occur, it is
> best that all metal parts be grounded or the circuit protected by a GFCI.
>
> So yes people have in the past been shocked by touching metal plates when
> certain malfunctions occur. Thus the reason they want these to be grounded -
> just in case!
>

I understand that it would be far preferable that the circuit be
grounded; I'm just not certain if that is even practical in all
locations, at least not without pulling the baseboards and channeling
the plaster. Hence my question - I don't want to do anything that
doesn't at least meet code.

nate

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Posted by dpb on November 7, 2009, 11:23 am


Nate Nagel wrote:
> Bill wrote:
>> "Nate Nagel" wrote in message
>>> can you use metal switch plates and receptacle covers on an ungrounded
>>> circuit protected by a GFCI, or ONLY on a grounded circuit?
>> New code for "new wiring" is that all metal associated with electrical
>> devices is grounded.
...

> I understand that it would be far preferable that the circuit be
> grounded; I'm just not certain if that is even practical in all
> locations, at least not without pulling the baseboards and channeling
> the plaster. Hence my question - I don't want to do anything that
> doesn't at least meet code.
...

I'm not sure about the interaction w/ GFCI-protected circuits and how
the nuances of new Code might read. The one area that has been updated
is 380-9 that is specifically geared to switches, not receptacles.

Here's a link to a little info amplifying the changes; I don't have full
copy of new code (nor time nor inclination :) ) to dig through to
unequivocally answer the question wrt to GFCI but I think it is safe to
say they're prohibited for new construction on ungrounded circuits w/o
any exception. There's the exception noted for ungrounded switches in
replacements.

<http://ecmweb.com/mag/electric_illustrated_changes_nec_6/>

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