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electrical ground rod A & P D 08-19-2006
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Posted by A & P D on August 19, 2006, 5:28 am
Anyone know the fastest/easiest way to install these 8' rods? It's a pain
in the ass pounding them 3/4 of the way down, hitting a rock or other and
then pulling it back out. Thanks



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Posted by John Gilmer on August 19, 2006, 7:31 am

> Anyone know the fastest/easiest way to install these 8' rods? It's a pain
> in the ass pounding them 3/4 of the way down, hitting a rock or other and
> then pulling it back out. Thanks

They are a PITA.

Last time I did it "right", I used a fence post driver (a capped section of
pipe with handles) to start it and get the rod 6' under. At that point,
the fence post driver hits the ground. After that it just used a good
sized sledge hammer.

In my case, the rod would seem to "lock up" and I would not see any
measurable progress after several blows. But eventually I got it down (and
actually below ground level. You might consider putting on the ground
clamp before you start with the hammer. After a zillion blows, the head
might mushroom a little.

There ain't no easy road!

I suspect that I hit down rocks on the way down and the rocks had to shift
or break up before I could progress. If you have a big enough rock
formation down below you are SOL and will have to used some other "approved"
method like putting the rod in lengthwise.

>
>



Posted by blueman on August 19, 2006, 10:09 pm
> > Anyone know the fastest/easiest way to install these 8' rods? It's a pain
> > in the ass pounding them 3/4 of the way down, hitting a rock or other and
> > then pulling it back out. Thanks
>
> They are a PITA.
>
> Last time I did it "right", I used a fence post driver (a capped section of
> pipe with handles) to start it and get the rod 6' under. At that point,
> the fence post driver hits the ground. After that it just used a good
> sized sledge hammer.

You are lucky. Only the first 1-2 feet were easy for me :(


> In my case, the rod would seem to "lock up" and I would not see any
> measurable progress after several blows. But eventually I got it down (and
> actually below ground level.

I had the same experience. First 1-2 feet were easy.
For a while, I kept pulling back and starting again...
Then, I realized that persistence worked... each blow of my 3 pound
sledgehammer moved the rod almost imperceptably. But after a good
workout of about 30 minutes, I finally go the rod all the way down to
the last inch or two.

> You might consider putting on the ground
> clamp before you start with the hammer. After a zillion blows, the head
> might mushroom a little.

How true! I learned the hard way and had to use my grinder to shave
off the mushroom.

> There ain't no easy road!

Yup...

> I suspect that I hit down rocks on the way down and the rocks had to shift
> or break up before I could progress. If you have a big enough rock
> formation down below you are SOL and will have to used some other "approved"
> method like putting the rod in lengthwise.
>
> >
> >

Posted by John Gilmer on August 20, 2006, 4:42 am

> I had the same experience. First 1-2 feet were easy.
> For a while, I kept pulling back and starting again...
> Then, I realized that persistence worked... each blow of my 3 pound
> sledgehammer moved the rod almost imperceptably. But after a good
> workout of about 30 minutes, I finally go the rod all the way down to
> the last inch or two.

Believe it or not, I used a 20# hammer. I didn't swing it over my head
like I was driving railroad spikes but only let it drop about 8" to 12" or
so (about the same as the effective drop of a small hammer. When I only
used a 3# hammer to a good approximation absolutely NOTHING happened!

>
> > You might consider putting on the ground
> > clamp before you start with the hammer. After a zillion blows, the
head
> > might mushroom a little.
>
> How true! I learned the hard way and had to use my grinder to shave
> off the mushroom.
>
> > There ain't no easy road!
>
> Yup...
>
> > I suspect that I hit down rocks on the way down and the rocks had to
shift
> > or break up before I could progress. If you have a big enough rock
> > formation down below you are SOL and will have to used some other
"approved"
> > method like putting the rod in lengthwise.
> >
> > >
> > >



Posted by Pete C. on August 19, 2006, 7:51 am
A & P D wrote:
>
> Anyone know the fastest/easiest way to install these 8' rods? It's a pain
> in the ass pounding them 3/4 of the way down, hitting a rock or other and
> then pulling it back out. Thanks

A larger hammer drill, or more properly rotary hammer with a ground rod
drive adapter. Hilti is best.

Pete C.

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