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faucet/sink quality DLK 03-06-2007
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Posted by DLK on March 6, 2007, 9:32 am


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> >I am preparing to renovate my kitchen and will be purchasing a new
> > stainless sink and faucet. I was told by the salesperson in a local
> > plumbing supply company that there are differences in the quality of
> > faucets sold in plumbing stores vs. large chain stores (like Home
> > Depot) and internet retailers. She noted that they look the same, but
> > have different internal parts and there may also be warranty issues
> > with the manufacturer with online purchases. There seems to be a
> > large price difference as well. Does anyone know more about this
> > issue? And, why, isn't this issue publicized more? For example,
> > checked out the Consumer Reports (C.R.) website and they make no
> > mention of this on their faucet ratings.
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> > Also, C.R. does a feature on sinks and basically says that there is
> > little difference among brands within each type of sink (stainless vs
> > enamel, etc.). Does anyone have suggestions on a quality manufacturer
> > for a stainless steel 1 1/2 bowl sink for 33 in sink base. Was
> > looking at Blanco, Elkay, and Am Standard.
>
> > Thanks.
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> Warranty issues: You should address this question to the manufacturers,
> using a telephone, and ONLY a telephone. They will tell you whether the
> warranty is affected by where you purchase their products. What they CANNOT
> tell you is HOW each type of dealer will be able to help you if you need a
> product replaced. However, it should be obvious that an internet retailer is
> not going to make you happy when your faucet has problems on Friday night,
> you have to shut off the water to the kitchen, and you have guests coming
> for dinner on Saturday. At least in my house, there are certain products
> which cannot be out of commission for however many days it takes for someone
> to ship me a new one. The kitchen faucet is one of those things. I think
> you'd be crazy to NOT buy a thing like that from a local vendor, and
> preferably a plumbing supply house. If they have several in stock most of
> the time, I'd be surprised if they wouldn't swap a defect for a new one when
> you walked in the door.
>
> As far as manufacturers making different products for different retailers,
> yes, it does happen. This is another issue you'll discuss on the phone with
> the manufacturers. But, what you're MORE likely to discover is that certain
> models aren't regularly stocked at Home Depot because maybe they don't think
> their "typical customer" is going to spend $350 for a fancy faucet. So,
> it'll be a special order item.
>
> Sinks: Some are made of thicker metal than others. This matters because if
> the deck (where the faucet's mounted) flexes too much, the gasket can begin
> to leak and then you have a mess under your sink. This happened to me in an
> apartment. They finally saw the light and replaced the sinks. Thicker metal
> also makes for a quieter sink.- Hide quoted text -
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> - Show quoted text -

Thanks for the imput everyone. I think I will stick with my local
plumbing supplier on the faucet for the reasons mentioned. I was
planning to go with one of the Grohe stainless models and the price
difference between local supplier and internet is rather large:
$100-200. It is tempting. Does anyone have thoughts about the Grohe
faucets, good or bad?

For the sink, I am doing the 1 1/2 bowl, undermount sink, so no deck
issue, and assume that I would be using one of the thicker gauges, I
guess it is 18. Given that, any suggestions on manufacturer?



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Posted by JoeSpareBedroom on March 6, 2007, 9:36 am


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>> >I am preparing to renovate my kitchen and will be purchasing a new
>> > stainless sink and faucet. I was told by the salesperson in a local
>> > plumbing supply company that there are differences in the quality of
>> > faucets sold in plumbing stores vs. large chain stores (like Home
>> > Depot) and internet retailers. She noted that they look the same, but
>> > have different internal parts and there may also be warranty issues
>> > with the manufacturer with online purchases. There seems to be a
>> > large price difference as well. Does anyone know more about this
>> > issue? And, why, isn't this issue publicized more? For example,
>> > checked out the Consumer Reports (C.R.) website and they make no
>> > mention of this on their faucet ratings.
>>
>> > Also, C.R. does a feature on sinks and basically says that there is
>> > little difference among brands within each type of sink (stainless vs
>> > enamel, etc.). Does anyone have suggestions on a quality manufacturer
>> > for a stainless steel 1 1/2 bowl sink for 33 in sink base. Was
>> > looking at Blanco, Elkay, and Am Standard.
>>
>> > Thanks.
>>
>> Warranty issues: You should address this question to the manufacturers,
>> using a telephone, and ONLY a telephone. They will tell you whether the
>> warranty is affected by where you purchase their products. What they
>> CANNOT
>> tell you is HOW each type of dealer will be able to help you if you need
>> a
>> product replaced. However, it should be obvious that an internet retailer
>> is
>> not going to make you happy when your faucet has problems on Friday
>> night,
>> you have to shut off the water to the kitchen, and you have guests coming
>> for dinner on Saturday. At least in my house, there are certain products
>> which cannot be out of commission for however many days it takes for
>> someone
>> to ship me a new one. The kitchen faucet is one of those things. I think
>> you'd be crazy to NOT buy a thing like that from a local vendor, and
>> preferably a plumbing supply house. If they have several in stock most of
>> the time, I'd be surprised if they wouldn't swap a defect for a new one
>> when
>> you walked in the door.
>>
>> As far as manufacturers making different products for different
>> retailers,
>> yes, it does happen. This is another issue you'll discuss on the phone
>> with
>> the manufacturers. But, what you're MORE likely to discover is that
>> certain
>> models aren't regularly stocked at Home Depot because maybe they don't
>> think
>> their "typical customer" is going to spend $350 for a fancy faucet. So,
>> it'll be a special order item.
>>
>> Sinks: Some are made of thicker metal than others. This matters because
>> if
>> the deck (where the faucet's mounted) flexes too much, the gasket can
>> begin
>> to leak and then you have a mess under your sink. This happened to me in
>> an
>> apartment. They finally saw the light and replaced the sinks. Thicker
>> metal
>> also makes for a quieter sink.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> Thanks for the imput everyone. I think I will stick with my local
> plumbing supplier on the faucet for the reasons mentioned. I was
> planning to go with one of the Grohe stainless models and the price
> difference between local supplier and internet is rather large:
> $100-200. It is tempting. Does anyone have thoughts about the Grohe
> faucets, good or bad?


You might try a test run for service. Cook up some sort of pre-installation
question and call the company. If they sound like idiots now, they'll still
sound like idiots when you really have a problem.

I can vouch for Moen's service being excellent. I called them once to find
out the correct model number for the replacement cartridge in my shower
faucet, which was ruined by debris in the water supply. It had nothing to do
with the quality of their product, and I explained that, but they insisted
on sending me the cartridge for free.



Posted by DLK on March 6, 2007, 9:45 am


>
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>
>
>
>
>
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> >> >I am preparing to renovate my kitchen and will be purchasing a new
> >> > stainless sink and faucet. I was told by the salesperson in a local
> >> > plumbing supply company that there are differences in the quality of
> >> > faucets sold in plumbing stores vs. large chain stores (like Home
> >> > Depot) and internet retailers. She noted that they look the same, but
> >> > have different internal parts and there may also be warranty issues
> >> > with the manufacturer with online purchases. There seems to be a
> >> > large price difference as well. Does anyone know more about this
> >> > issue? And, why, isn't this issue publicized more? For example,
> >> > checked out the Consumer Reports (C.R.) website and they make no
> >> > mention of this on their faucet ratings.
>
> >> > Also, C.R. does a feature on sinks and basically says that there is
> >> > little difference among brands within each type of sink (stainless vs
> >> > enamel, etc.). Does anyone have suggestions on a quality manufacturer
> >> > for a stainless steel 1 1/2 bowl sink for 33 in sink base. Was
> >> > looking at Blanco, Elkay, and Am Standard.
>
> >> > Thanks.
>
> >> Warranty issues: You should address this question to the manufacturers,
> >> using a telephone, and ONLY a telephone. They will tell you whether the
> >> warranty is affected by where you purchase their products. What they
> >> CANNOT
> >> tell you is HOW each type of dealer will be able to help you if you need
> >> a
> >> product replaced. However, it should be obvious that an internet retailer
> >> is
> >> not going to make you happy when your faucet has problems on Friday
> >> night,
> >> you have to shut off the water to the kitchen, and you have guests coming
> >> for dinner on Saturday. At least in my house, there are certain products
> >> which cannot be out of commission for however many days it takes for
> >> someone
> >> to ship me a new one. The kitchen faucet is one of those things. I think
> >> you'd be crazy to NOT buy a thing like that from a local vendor, and
> >> preferably a plumbing supply house. If they have several in stock most of
> >> the time, I'd be surprised if they wouldn't swap a defect for a new one
> >> when
> >> you walked in the door.
>
> >> As far as manufacturers making different products for different
> >> retailers,
> >> yes, it does happen. This is another issue you'll discuss on the phone
> >> with
> >> the manufacturers. But, what you're MORE likely to discover is that
> >> certain
> >> models aren't regularly stocked at Home Depot because maybe they don't
> >> think
> >> their "typical customer" is going to spend $350 for a fancy faucet. So,
> >> it'll be a special order item.
>
> >> Sinks: Some are made of thicker metal than others. This matters because
> >> if
> >> the deck (where the faucet's mounted) flexes too much, the gasket can
> >> begin
> >> to leak and then you have a mess under your sink. This happened to me in
> >> an
> >> apartment. They finally saw the light and replaced the sinks. Thicker
> >> metal
> >> also makes for a quieter sink.- Hide quoted text -
>
> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > Thanks for the imput everyone. I think I will stick with my local
> > plumbing supplier on the faucet for the reasons mentioned. I was
> > planning to go with one of the Grohe stainless models and the price
> > difference between local supplier and internet is rather large:
> > $100-200. It is tempting. Does anyone have thoughts about the Grohe
> > faucets, good or bad?
>
> You might try a test run for service. Cook up some sort of pre-installation
> question and call the company. If they sound like idiots now, they'll still
> sound like idiots when you really have a problem.
>
> I can vouch for Moen's service being excellent. I called them once to find
> out the correct model number for the replacement cartridge in my shower
> faucet, which was ruined by debris in the water supply. It had nothing to do
> with the quality of their product, and I explained that, but they insisted
> on sending me the cartridge for free.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

I put the Moen fixtures (bought from the same plumbing supplier) in my
recently redone bathrooms and like them very much. Haven't had a
repair issue yet (knock wood), but glad to hear that the service is
good. Good idea on the test run.

Perhaps I will check out Moen's kitchen faucets as well.


Posted by oklaman on March 6, 2007, 9:51 am


The pullout hose on my Kohler kitchen faucet recently stated leaking.

Kohler just sent me another hose; said these faucets have lifetime warranty.
Purchased from HD.
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>
>
>
>
>
> >> >I am preparing to renovate my kitchen and will be purchasing a new
> >> > stainless sink and faucet. I was told by the salesperson in a local
> >> > plumbing supply company that there are differences in the quality of
> >> > faucets sold in plumbing stores vs. large chain stores (like Home
> >> > Depot) and internet retailers. She noted that they look the same,
> >> > but
> >> > have different internal parts and there may also be warranty issues
> >> > with the manufacturer with online purchases. There seems to be a
> >> > large price difference as well. Does anyone know more about this
> >> > issue? And, why, isn't this issue publicized more? For example,
> >> > checked out the Consumer Reports (C.R.) website and they make no
> >> > mention of this on their faucet ratings.
>
> >> > Also, C.R. does a feature on sinks and basically says that there is
> >> > little difference among brands within each type of sink (stainless vs
> >> > enamel, etc.). Does anyone have suggestions on a quality
> >> > manufacturer
> >> > for a stainless steel 1 1/2 bowl sink for 33 in sink base. Was
> >> > looking at Blanco, Elkay, and Am Standard.
>
> >> > Thanks.
>
> >> Warranty issues: You should address this question to the manufacturers,
> >> using a telephone, and ONLY a telephone. They will tell you whether the
> >> warranty is affected by where you purchase their products. What they
> >> CANNOT
> >> tell you is HOW each type of dealer will be able to help you if you
> >> need
> >> a
> >> product replaced. However, it should be obvious that an internet
> >> retailer
> >> is
> >> not going to make you happy when your faucet has problems on Friday
> >> night,
> >> you have to shut off the water to the kitchen, and you have guests
> >> coming
> >> for dinner on Saturday. At least in my house, there are certain
> >> products
> >> which cannot be out of commission for however many days it takes for
> >> someone
> >> to ship me a new one. The kitchen faucet is one of those things. I
> >> think
> >> you'd be crazy to NOT buy a thing like that from a local vendor, and
> >> preferably a plumbing supply house. If they have several in stock most
> >> of
> >> the time, I'd be surprised if they wouldn't swap a defect for a new one
> >> when
> >> you walked in the door.
>
> >> As far as manufacturers making different products for different
> >> retailers,
> >> yes, it does happen. This is another issue you'll discuss on the phone
> >> with
> >> the manufacturers. But, what you're MORE likely to discover is that
> >> certain
> >> models aren't regularly stocked at Home Depot because maybe they don't
> >> think
> >> their "typical customer" is going to spend $350 for a fancy faucet. So,
> >> it'll be a special order item.
>
> >> Sinks: Some are made of thicker metal than others. This matters because
> >> if
> >> the deck (where the faucet's mounted) flexes too much, the gasket can
> >> begin
> >> to leak and then you have a mess under your sink. This happened to me
> >> in
> >> an
> >> apartment. They finally saw the light and replaced the sinks. Thicker
> >> metal
> >> also makes for a quieter sink.- Hide quoted text -
>
> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > Thanks for the imput everyone. I think I will stick with my local
> > plumbing supplier on the faucet for the reasons mentioned. I was
> > planning to go with one of the Grohe stainless models and the price
> > difference between local supplier and internet is rather large:
> > $100-200. It is tempting. Does anyone have thoughts about the Grohe
> > faucets, good or bad?
>
> You might try a test run for service. Cook up some sort of
> pre-installation
> question and call the company. If they sound like idiots now, they'll
> still
> sound like idiots when you really have a problem.
>
> I can vouch for Moen's service being excellent. I called them once to find
> out the correct model number for the replacement cartridge in my shower
> faucet, which was ruined by debris in the water supply. It had nothing to
> do
> with the quality of their product, and I explained that, but they insisted
> on sending me the cartridge for free.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

I put the Moen fixtures (bought from the same plumbing supplier) in my
recently redone bathrooms and like them very much. Haven't had a
repair issue yet (knock wood), but glad to hear that the service is
good. Good idea on the test run.

Perhaps I will check out Moen's kitchen faucets as well.



Posted by JoeSpareBedroom on March 6, 2007, 9:59 am


> The pullout hose on my Kohler kitchen faucet recently stated leaking.

It is the type where the thing pulls out from the faucet neck itself, or
from the deck?



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