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fixing 2" broken spinkler pvc line alextyler 06-17-2007
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Posted by Big_Jake on June 18, 2007, 10:03 pm
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> > > > Okay guys,,,put your thinking caps on. My main sprinkler line from my
> > > > pump to my irrigation system broke. It is a 2" PVC line...The problem
> > > > is this...there is no way to replace the broken line because I can not
> > > > bend the pipe in order to slide the fittings together. I have tried
> > > > the rubber type flexible pipe and with the pressure it pops off. I am
> > > > wondering if anyone has any ideas or can I create a 4x90degree in
> > > > order to create proper connections. Will the 90 degree angles handle
> > > > the pressure?
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> > > > HELP
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> > > Why not a 2" PVC union? You can get these at any of the
borgs.http://www.123ponds.com/ww9075.html
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> > This is the 2nd time in a week that I find myself asking "WHY??" to a
> > post suggesting a PVC union. The only practical use of a union would
> > be an instance where you would want to take it apart repeatedly.
> > Follow Rico's advice and use a repair coupling or two and the
> > appropriate glue. You should be able to buy 2 repair couplings and a
> > 5' section of pipe for less than the cost of the union.
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> > JK- Hide quoted text -
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> While I would probably not go the 'union' route, there is nothing
> wrong with one. They are just as permanent a fitting as a normal
> joint. YOu apparently have never tried to splice in fittings in a 2"
> pvc pipe. It would take a _lot_ of digging to get enough wriggle room
> to do it. Granted it is one of the right ways to do it but there are
> simpler work arounds (4 90s or 4 45s for one, a union for another).
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> Harry K

In this case, you could probably cut a 3" section of pipe out, and use
two couplings and a slightly shorter pc of 2" pipe to make the
repair. You would have to do no more digging than you would to try to
get your 4 elbows solution in place.

No one is suggesting that you try to dig up enough pipe to flex the
pipe around to get a single coupling in place. That might take lots
of digging.

JK


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Posted by Harry K on June 18, 2007, 10:45 pm
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> > > > > Okay guys,,,put your thinking caps on. My main sprinkler line from my
> > > > > pump to my irrigation system broke. It is a 2" PVC line...The problem
> > > > > is this...there is no way to replace the broken line because I can not
> > > > > bend the pipe in order to slide the fittings together. I have tried
> > > > > the rubber type flexible pipe and with the pressure it pops off. I am
> > > > > wondering if anyone has any ideas or can I create a 4x90degree in
> > > > > order to create proper connections. Will the 90 degree angles handle
> > > > > the pressure?
>
> > > > > HELP
>
> > > > Why not a 2" PVC union? You can get these at any of the
borgs.http://www.123ponds.com/ww9075.html
>
> > > This is the 2nd time in a week that I find myself asking "WHY??" to a
> > > post suggesting a PVC union. The only practical use of a union would
> > > be an instance where you would want to take it apart repeatedly.
> > > Follow Rico's advice and use a repair coupling or two and the
> > > appropriate glue. You should be able to buy 2 repair couplings and a
> > > 5' section of pipe for less than the cost of the union.
>
> > > JK- Hide quoted text -
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> > > - Show quoted text -
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> > While I would probably not go the 'union' route, there is nothing
> > wrong with one. They are just as permanent a fitting as a normal
> > joint. YOu apparently have never tried to splice in fittings in a 2"
> > pvc pipe. It would take a _lot_ of digging to get enough wriggle room
> > to do it. Granted it is one of the right ways to do it but there are
> > simpler work arounds (4 90s or 4 45s for one, a union for another).
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> > Harry K
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> In this case, you could probably cut a 3" section of pipe out, and use
> two couplings and a slightly shorter pc of 2" pipe to make the
> repair. You would have to do no more digging than you would to try to
> get your 4 elbows solution in place.
>
> No one is suggesting that you try to dig up enough pipe to flex the
> pipe around to get a single coupling in place. That might take lots
> of digging.
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> JK- Hide quoted text -
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You would still need some 'flex' room. You are talking about
inserting about a 6" section of pipe into a rigid pipe. Each of those
fitting requir sliding a piece of pipe into the fitting. 4 90s, or 4
45s, plus a short piece of pipe can be 'turned' into place for the
final join with a bit of force. I have done it 3 times now on 1"
pipe, haven't tried it on larger sizes.

Harry K


Posted by RicodJour on June 17, 2007, 4:56 pm
> Okay guys,,,put your thinking caps on. My main sprinkler line from my
> pump to my irrigation system broke. It is a 2" PVC line...The problem
> is this...there is no way to replace the broken line because I can not
> bend the pipe in order to slide the fittings together. I have tried
> the rubber type flexible pipe and with the pressure it pops off. I am
> wondering if anyone has any ideas or can I create a 4x90degree in
> order to create proper connections. Will the 90 degree angles handle
> the pressure?
>
> HELP

Either cut off a bigger section and use two couplings to splice in a
repair section of 2", or, if it's buried, dig up more of the 2" pipe
so you'll have some wiggle room.

R


Posted by Harry K on June 17, 2007, 10:36 pm
> Okay guys,,,put your thinking caps on. My main sprinkler line from my
> pump to my irrigation system broke. It is a 2" PVC line...The problem
> is this...there is no way to replace the broken line because I can not
> bend the pipe in order to slide the fittings together. I have tried
> the rubber type flexible pipe and with the pressure it pops off. I am
> wondering if anyone has any ideas or can I create a 4x90degree in
> order to create proper connections. Will the 90 degree angles handle
> the pressure?
>
> HELP

Yes, the 4 '90's solution is doable. I have used it myself. Does
cause a bit of piping friction loss in efficiency.

Don't try the "Dressler" or "Dresser" couplings on PVC. They are the
ones with two compression fittings and rubber gaskets. I used one as
a quick disconnect on a sprinkler system feeding out of a stream.
Over time it actually deformed the PVC by squeezing it down to a
lesser diameter. I wouldn't use one ever in a buried pipe.

Harry K


Posted by DanG on June 19, 2007, 11:39 pm
You need to go to an irrigation or sprinkler place. Most plumbing
supply houses do not carry these. Call around and ask for a
telescoping pvc repair coupling. We use these on full pressure
potable systems and sprinkler. They are great when a trencher
has chewed the line, they also work great if one backhoe tooth
hurt the pipe (full bucket takes out too much pipe).

Here is an example from KBI
http://www.irrigation.ca/Manuals/Brochures/QF-Specs.pdf
and another from Slip-fix
http://www.nationalirrigation.com.au/pvc_pressure_fittings/slip_fix.html

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> Okay guys,,,put your thinking caps on. My main sprinkler line
> from my
> pump to my irrigation system broke. It is a 2" PVC line...The
> problem
> is this...there is no way to replace the broken line because I
> can not
> bend the pipe in order to slide the fittings together. I have
> tried
> the rubber type flexible pipe and with the pressure it pops off.
> I am
> wondering if anyone has any ideas or can I create a 4x90degree
> in
> order to create proper connections. Will the 90 degree angles
> handle
> the pressure?
>
> HELP
>



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