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foundation perimeter landscape question mr smith 04-04-2008
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Posted by mr smith on April 4, 2008, 9:34 am

i have around my home, some shrubs, hedges and other
assorted plant life.

i think the previous owner had some "mulch" in the
areas where those plants were.

other areas have a lot of rocks, that, from one landscape
guy told me, he didn't lay down a fabric, so the rocks
just over the years sank into the dirt.

my question is, which is better ?

(a). to go with root mulch (not the wood type that
termites love),

or

(b). rocks with a layer of anti-weed fabric underneath


i think the rocks are a better idea, because it "should"
help water run off during storms... right ? i mean at
least that's what i think rocks in a perimeter drain do.
(house does have a perimeter drain system by the way).

but i have no experience with this type of stuff and
am wondering what most people choose (and why).











Posted by on April 4, 2008, 9:17 am
> i have around my home, some shrubs, hedges and other
> assorted plant life.
>
> i think the previous owner had some "mulch" in the
> areas where those plants were.
>
> other areas have a lot of rocks, that, from one landscape
> guy told me, he didn't lay down a fabric, so the rocks
> just over the years sank into the dirt.
>
> my question is, which is better ?
>
> (a). to go with root mulch (not the wood type that
> =A0 =A0 =A0termites love),
>
> or
>
> (b). rocks with a layer of anti-weed fabric underneath
>
> i think the rocks are a better idea, because it "should"
> help water run off during storms... right ? i mean at
> least that's what i think rocks in a perimeter drain do.
> (house does have a perimeter drain system by the way).
>
> but i have no experience with this type of stuff and
> am wondering what most people choose (and why).


There's no one answer that's right for everyone and every area. Rock
isn't going to do anything as far as letting water run off. The
water is just going to go right through the rock and then through the
landscape fabric, which is permeable.

Advantages to rock:
You may like the way it looks and it's available in wide variety of
types
Doesn't require periodic renewal
No termite issue

Disadvantages:
Over time, dust, debris, wind blown dirt, leaf debris, etc will
accumulate and some weeds will still manage to grow.
When you want to add/remove a plant, it's a pain because you have to
ty to pull back the rock, not get soil in it, etc
It's not good for plants, particularly in hot, full sun environment

Advantages to mulch
Retains moisture, better for plants
Easier to work with when adding/removing plants

Disadvantages:
Has to be renewed every few years.
Possible terminte issues

Personally, I've had both and tend to prefer mulch.







Posted by on April 4, 2008, 9:18 am
On Apr 4, 9:17=A0am, trad...@optonline.net wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > i have around my home, some shrubs, hedges and other
> > assorted plant life.
>
> > i think the previous owner had some "mulch" in the
> > areas where those plants were.
>
> > other areas have a lot of rocks, that, from one landscape
> > guy told me, he didn't lay down a fabric, so the rocks
> > just over the years sank into the dirt.
>
> > my question is, which is better ?
>
> > (a). to go with root mulch (not the wood type that
> > =A0 =A0 =A0termites love),
>
> > or
>
> > (b). rocks with a layer of anti-weed fabric underneath
>
> > i think the rocks are a better idea, because it "should"
> > help water run off during storms... right ? i mean at
> > least that's what i think rocks in a perimeter drain do.
> > (house does have a perimeter drain system by the way).
>
> > but i have no experience with this type of stuff and
> > am wondering what most people choose (and why).
>
> There's no one answer that's right for everyone and every area. =A0Rock
> isn't going to do anything as far as letting water run off. =A0 The
> water is just going to go right through the rock and then through the
> landscape fabric, which is permeable.
>
> Advantages to rock:
> You may like the way it looks and it's available in wide variety of
> types
> Doesn't require periodic renewal
> No termite issue
>
> Disadvantages:
> Over time, dust, debris, wind blown dirt, leaf debris, etc will
> accumulate and some weeds will still manage to grow.
> When you want to add/remove a plant, it's a pain because you have to
> ty to pull back the rock, not get soil in it, etc
> It's not good for plants, particularly in hot, full sun environment
>
> Advantages to mulch
> Retains moisture, better for plants
> Easier to work with when adding/removing plants
>
> Disadvantages:
> Has to be renewed every few years.
> Possible terminte issues
>
> Personally, I've had both and tend to prefer mulch.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


Oh, and forget to add with stones, some always manage to make it into
the lawn where they can be hit with a mower.

Posted by Oren on April 4, 2008, 4:21 pm
On Fri, 4 Apr 2008 06:18:41 -0700 (PDT), trader4@optonline.net wrote:

>On Apr 4, 9:17 am, trad...@optonline.net wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > i have around my home, some shrubs, hedges and other
>> > assorted plant life.
>>
>> > i think the previous owner had some "mulch" in the
>> > areas where those plants were.
>>
>> > other areas have a lot of rocks, that, from one landscape
>> > guy told me, he didn't lay down a fabric, so the rocks
>> > just over the years sank into the dirt.
>>
>> > my question is, which is better ?
>>
>> > (a). to go with root mulch (not the wood type that
>> >      termites love),
>>
>> > or
>>
>> > (b). rocks with a layer of anti-weed fabric underneath
>>
>> > i think the rocks are a better idea, because it "should"
>> > help water run off during storms... right ? i mean at
>> > least that's what i think rocks in a perimeter drain do.
>> > (house does have a perimeter drain system by the way).
>>
>> > but i have no experience with this type of stuff and
>> > am wondering what most people choose (and why).
>>
>> There's no one answer that's right for everyone and every area.  Rock
>> isn't going to do anything as far as letting water run off.   The
>> water is just going to go right through the rock and then through the
>> landscape fabric, which is permeable.
>>
>> Advantages to rock:
>> You may like the way it looks and it's available in wide variety of
>> types
>> Doesn't require periodic renewal
>> No termite issue
>>
>> Disadvantages:
>> Over time, dust, debris, wind blown dirt, leaf debris, etc will
>> accumulate and some weeds will still manage to grow.
>> When you want to add/remove a plant, it's a pain because you have to
>> ty to pull back the rock, not get soil in it, etc
>> It's not good for plants, particularly in hot, full sun environment
>>
>> Advantages to mulch
>> Retains moisture, better for plants
>> Easier to work with when adding/removing plants
>>
>> Disadvantages:
>> Has to be renewed every few years.
>> Possible terminte issues

I brought home about 15 - 20 bags a large bark for the landscape,
bought it from the local nursery place.

Didn't realize I brought home an invading army of crickets! When we
found them at night, having seen a few already I went on a late night
spraying to kill them off in large numbers:)

Watch what travels home with you...


>>
>> Personally, I've had both and tend to prefer mulch.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
>
>Oh, and forget to add with stones, some always manage to make it into
>the lawn where they can be hit with a mower.

Posted by hallerb@aol.com on April 4, 2008, 10:08 pm
> On Fri, 4 Apr 2008 06:18:41 -0700 (PDT), trad...@optonline.net wrote:
> >On Apr 4, 9:17=EF=BF=BDam, trad...@optonline.net wrote:
te:
>
> >> > i have around my home, some shrubs, hedges and other
> >> > assorted plant life.
>
> >> > i think the previous owner had some "mulch" in the
> >> > areas where those plants were.
>
> >> > other areas have a lot of rocks, that, from one landscape
> >> > guy told me, he didn't lay down a fabric, so the rocks
> >> > just over the years sank into the dirt.
>
> >> > my question is, which is better ?
>
> >> > (a). to go with root mulch (not the wood type that
> >> > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BDtermites love),
>
> >> > or
>
> >> > (b). rocks with a layer of anti-weed fabric underneath
>
> >> > i think the rocks are a better idea, because it "should"
> >> > help water run off during storms... right ? i mean at
> >> > least that's what i think rocks in a perimeter drain do.
> >> > (house does have a perimeter drain system by the way).
>
> >> > but i have no experience with this type of stuff and
> >> > am wondering what most people choose (and why).
>
> >> There's no one answer that's right for everyone and every area. =EF=BF=
=BDRock
> >> isn't going to do anything as far as letting water run off. =EF=BF=BD T=
he
> >> water is just going to go right through the rock and then through the
> >> landscape fabric, which is permeable.
>
> >> Advantages to rock:
> >> You may like the way it looks and it's available in wide variety of
> >> types
> >> Doesn't require periodic renewal
> >> No termite issue
>
> >> Disadvantages:
> >> Over time, dust, debris, wind blown dirt, leaf debris, etc will
> >> accumulate and some weeds will still manage to grow.
> >> When you want to add/remove a plant, it's a pain because you have to
> >> ty to pull back the rock, not get soil in it, etc
> >> It's not good for plants, particularly in hot, full sun environment
>
> >> Advantages to mulch
> >> Retains moisture, better for plants
> >> Easier to work with when adding/removing plants
>
> >> Disadvantages:
> >> Has to be renewed every few years.
> >> Possible terminte issues
>
> I brought home about 15 - 20 bags a large bark for the landscape,
> bought it from the local nursery place.
>
> Didn't realize I brought home an invading army of crickets! When we
> found them at night, having seen a few already I went on a late night
> spraying to kill them off in large numbers:)
>
> Watch what travels home with you...
>
>
>
>
>
> >> Personally, I've had both and tend to prefer mulch.- Hide quoted text -=

>
> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> >Oh, and forget to add with stones, some always manage to make it into
> >the lawn where they can be hit with a mower.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

crickets do no harm, and the chirping sounds kinda nice on a summer
night......

i have thought about buying some big ones at the pet shop and
releasing them in my best friends basement.

he has a hearing problem but it would drive his family nuts:)


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