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help choosing a window AC Brian 04-22-2008
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Posted by Brian on April 23, 2008, 3:01 am

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> > I'm posting looking for recommendations on a window AC unit. I'm
> > considering
> > the 12-18000 BTU range. The area I'm lookking to cool is 4 rooms
> > together
> > amounting to approx 500sq ft with 8ft cielings, but consider the one of
> > those roos that I spend most ime in (which has all sorts of heat
> > generating
> > computers & electronics) also has no windows except for the one I've
> > blocked
> > off for and mounted an unsatisfactory 8000 btu cheap fedders window ac
> > into.
> > (hey, no windows for the prying eyes to see my most expensive
> > possesions.
> > This one is unsatisfactory on 2 points, 1, it barely cools this room,
> > and 2,
> > I can't understand a conversation with it running...LOOOOUUUD!
> > Although in my next purchase how loud it is will be slightly less
> > important
> > because I likely won't mount it in this room but try to cool the entire
> > floor from another.
> > I realise the noise is supposed to be expressed with a bel rating, but
> > it
> > doesn't seem to be something that's advertised much when shopping for
> > one.
> > Also, going to a 220v unit will be a pain, so if something using 110 is
> > availible it will get alot of points that way.
> > The stores that are likely to sell them here are wal-mart (yuk), sears,
> > home
> > depot, and lowes.. so something availible at those stores is a big plus.
> > So if anyone has a unit that they're highly pleased with within this
> > description, you response would be very much appreciated!
> > Thanks!
> > Brian
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> insulate the walls floors and ceilings of the workspace to make the
> air conditioning more effective. always ventilate the stale air before
> you run your sir conditioner. the thru-the-wall units with wall sleeve
> are more expensive but give you privacy and allow you to still enjoy
> fresh air from the window. note the window ac's are usually not
> interchangeable since they use vents on sides. the wall units do their
> business out the rear only. look harder to find a unit that exhausts
> if possible. low end units usually lack a lever operated intake vent
> to cool fresh air. we have foolishly limited our air conditioner
> purchasing by window size and convenience of an electrical outlet, and
> those cheap air conditioners piled on a pallet with no features you
> need will be an inexpensive education as a gift to an 8 x10 foot low
> ceiling bedroom user with no pets in a temperate climate.
> if you are limited to a window installation, see if you can still add
> a window fan perhaps hanging inside the top of the upper sash for air
> changes. noise canceling headphones will cut down the roar of the air
> conditioner.
> search window air conditioners and find thorough specifications
> at:www.grainger.com- Hide quoted text -
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>I think the next problem you're going to have is that you will be
dissatisfied with the 12-18K unit because it's difficult to cool 4
rooms with a window unit located in just one of them. Also, I'd
figure out what the real issue is with the 8K BTU unit that barely
cools the one room with the electronic gear. Is it that the unit is
bad? Or is that there is so much electronics that it is the real
issue? Today, when someone says they have a room full of computers
and electronics, it could mean anything from a PC and TV to a server
farm.

I'm talking along the lines of primarily covering a room with 2 pcs, a good
sound system, and a 50" plasma, also being very stuffy due to the lack of
airflow from windows. It's a real decent HT setup and the noise is an issue
with friends over.
I was considering mounting it in the next room to cut down on noise and help
cool the rest of the floor.

In any case, if that 8K BTU unit actually works correctly and barely
cools that room, then I would say it's going to be impossible to cool
it adequately with a 12--18K BTU unit in another room that has to cool
not only it, but 3 other rooms. You just won't get enough air
movement to deliver the cold air where it's needed. A better
solution may be to get another 8 or 10K unit for the electronics room
and redeploy the existing 8K unit to one of the other rooms.

I would say if it was a GOOD 8K it would do OK except in the worst of ohio
summer, but as it is. when you get a couple more bodies in here it stays
quite hot and you can't hold a conversation over it. the afformentioned
deflector may be a consideration too... I was just thinking if I had a
larger unit in the next roon, this one might be sufficient to suppliment it
when needed., but perhaps 2 smaller 10k units is he better consideration.
thanks for the input.


Posted by HeyBub on April 22, 2008, 4:46 pm
Brian wrote:
> I'm posting looking for recommendations on a window AC unit. I'm
> considering the 12-18000 BTU range. The area I'm lookking to cool is
> 4 rooms together amounting to approx 500sq ft with 8ft cielings, but
> consider the one of those roos that I spend most ime in (which has
> all sorts of heat generating computers & electronics) also has no
> windows except for the one I've blocked off for and mounted an
> unsatisfactory 8000 btu cheap fedders window ac into. (hey, no
> windows for the prying eyes to see my most expensive possesions. This
> one is unsatisfactory on 2 points, 1, it barely cools this room, and
> 2, I can't understand a conversation with it running...LOOOOUUUD! Although
> in my next purchase how loud it is will be slightly less
> important because I likely won't mount it in this room but try to
> cool the entire floor from another.
> I realise the noise is supposed to be expressed with a bel rating,
> but it doesn't seem to be something that's advertised much when
> shopping for one. Also, going to a 220v unit will be a pain, so if
> something using 110 is availible it will get alot of points that way.
> The stores that are likely to sell them here are wal-mart (yuk),
> sears, home depot, and lowes.. so something availible at those stores
> is a big plus. So if anyone has a unit that they're highly pleased with
> within this
> description, you response would be very much appreciated!

I think the brands are pretty much interchangeable. There's really no market
for a high-end window unit, so the things are near the commodity end of the
scale.

Energy consumption, noise, looks, are almost identical.

I'd find the highest BTU/cost ratio I could - probably at Walmart.



Posted by Pat on April 22, 2008, 8:54 pm

> I'm posting looking for recommendations on a window AC unit. I'm
> considering the 12-18000 BTU range. The area I'm lookking to cool is 4
> rooms together amounting to approx 500sq ft with 8ft cielings, but
> consider the one of those roos that I spend most ime in (which has all
> sorts of heat generating computers & electronics) also has no windows
> except for the one I've blocked off for and mounted an unsatisfactory 8000
> btu cheap fedders window ac into. (hey, no windows for the prying eyes to
> see my most expensive possesions. This one is unsatisfactory on 2 points,
> 1, it barely cools this room, and 2, I can't understand a conversation
> with it running...LOOOOUUUD!
> Although in my next purchase how loud it is will be slightly less
> important because I likely won't mount it in this room but try to cool the
> entire floor from another.
> I realise the noise is supposed to be expressed with a bel rating, but it
> doesn't seem to be something that's advertised much when shopping for one.
> Also, going to a 220v unit will be a pain, so if something using 110 is
> availible it will get alot of points that way.
> The stores that are likely to sell them here are wal-mart (yuk), sears,
> home depot, and lowes.. so something availible at those stores is a big
> plus.
> So if anyone has a unit that they're highly pleased with within this
> description, you response would be very much appreciated!
> Thanks!
> Brian

I like to cut holes in the wall to install mine. You generally need a slide
out chassis and you have to make sure your wall will not block any louvers.
Small ones are quieter than large ones. I prefer several small ones
scattered around rather than one giant one blowing cold air on me and making
a racket. Just keep buying small ones and installing them until you are
happy. You have to make sure these get plenty of power. If you short them
on power they will fail right after its to late to return them to the store.
I would run a new circuit from the breaker panel for each one. They make a
easy egress point for burglers. All they have to do is push the unit out of
its housing and crawl in thru the hole. New ones are much quieter than old
ones and come with remotes. The window to shop for them is small. They are
only stocked once and as soon as the hot weather arrives they get bought up
quickly.



Posted by Edwin Pawlowski on April 22, 2008, 10:03 pm

> I'm posting looking for recommendations on a window AC unit. I'm
> considering the 12-18000 BTU range.

> Also, going to a 220v unit will be a pain, so if something using 110 is
> availible it will get alot of points that way.

> The stores that are likely to sell them here are wal-mart (yuk), sears,
> home depot, and lowes.. so something availible at those stores is a big
> plus.

You have a few considerations. Window units are designed to work in one
room only. Putting a large unit in one place will require some fans to
circulate the air to other areas. Either blow the hot air to the room with
the AC or blow the cold air into the hot rooms. Size wise, about 14,000 Btu
is the limit for 120 volt units too.

Window units are fairly noisy, but there are a couple of brands that are
better (or were in the past) such as Freidrich.

The stores you list as possible sources, tend to carry the low end products.
If you want cheap, you'll get cheap. A real appliance store may have better
options and better units. If you are interested in Energy Star units the
price will be much higher too.
--
Ed
http://pages.cthome.net/edhome/



Posted by Bob M. on April 23, 2008, 1:06 am
> I'm posting looking for recommendations on a window AC unit. I'm
> considering the 12-18000 BTU range. The area I'm lookking to cool is 4
> rooms together amounting to approx 500sq ft with 8ft cielings, but
> consider the one of those roos that I spend most ime in (which has all
> sorts of heat generating

Do you have forced-air heat? If so, the more effective way to deal with
this (due to the number of rooms involved) is probably central air, which is
easily added to houses with forced-air heat. I however, have hot water
heat. :-(


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