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help - simple electrical question Mr_Bill 11-24-2006
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Posted by Mr_Bill on November 24, 2006, 6:57 pm


I have under-cabinet fluorescent lights. Two
light fixures in parallel, wired to one single pole switch.
Each light fixture consists of 2 13W tubes, driven
by a "ballast". (So, the total rig consists of 1 switch,
2 ballasts, and 4 fluorescent tubes).

Today, 3 out of the 4 tubes went dark. Long story
short, all is well after I replaced only *one* tube. That
one bad tube had caused both tubes in 1 fixture to
go dark, *and* one tube in the neighboring fixture. (?!)

Anybody know what's going on?

Bill


Posted by on November 24, 2006, 8:00 pm



Mr_Bill wrote:
> I have under-cabinet fluorescent lights. Two
> light fixures in parallel, wired to one single pole switch.
> Each light fixture consists of 2 13W tubes, driven
> by a "ballast". (So, the total rig consists of 1 switch,
> 2 ballasts, and 4 fluorescent tubes).
>
> Today, 3 out of the 4 tubes went dark. Long story
> short, all is well after I replaced only *one* tube. That
> one bad tube had caused both tubes in 1 fixture to
> go dark, *and* one tube in the neighboring fixture. (?!)
>
> Anybody know what's going on?
>
> Bill

To be honest, I don't have a clue as to how flourescent lights work.
However, I always replace all the tubes in any fixture that fails. To
do otherwise seems like a total waste of time.

In regards to the second fixture, I would think that there is something
coincidental going on. Assuming a good parallel connection, it strikes
me as an impossibility that the one fixture could effect the other one
(except for a short circuit situation).

There is a remote possibility, I suppose, that if the voltage is
marginal, the power factor of the failing fixture's ballast could be
dragging the power down on the other fixture. That seems kind of far
fetched, though.

Do you have an evaporative (swamp) cooler by the way?

Have you tried removing the tube again to see if you can reproduce the
failure?


Posted by hallerb@aol.com on November 24, 2006, 8:27 pm


all the lamps are near the end of their life. all have the same number
of hours, and same number of off and ons. most likely all tubes are
darkened at their ends.

always replace all lamps in a mixture.

bottom line you will be needing more lamps soon........


Posted by George E. Cawthon on November 24, 2006, 10:37 pm


hallerb@aol.com wrote:
> all the lamps are near the end of their life. all have the same number
> of hours, and same number of off and ons. most likely all tubes are
> darkened at their ends.
>
> always replace all lamps in a mixture.
>
> bottom line you will be needing more lamps soon........
>

Poor analysis, and doesn't fit with the facts. He
said he replaced one bulb and all is fine.

Posted by hallerb@aol.com on November 25, 2006, 11:56 pm




> > always replace all lamps in a mixture.
> >
> > bottom line you will be needing more lamps soon........
> >
>
> Poor analysis, and doesn't fit with the facts. He
> said he replaced one bulb and all is fine.

I have about 25 fluroscent fixtures here. bulbs act flakey, replacing
one bad one often gets the other lamp working temporariliy.

after all asuming they were new and all installed at the same time
their end of life should be similiar.

the other fixture is likely a fluke........

big question are bulbs ends dark?


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