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hinges on solid core door? Elias D 04-12-2008
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Posted by Elias D on April 12, 2008, 4:26 am
I've got a heavy solid-core door with hinge problems. The original
screws have loosened up and stripped out. Several of these were
replaced by what appears to be 3 inch decking screws. Now it appears
that even these decking screws have loosened up and lost traction.

What's the best way to restore solid hinge attachment to the door
frame? These doors are very heavy......





Posted by David Nebenzahl on April 12, 2008, 12:15 am
On 4/12/2008 1:26 AM Elias D spake thus:

> I've got a heavy solid-core door with hinge problems. The original
> screws have loosened up and stripped out. Several of these were
> replaced by what appears to be 3 inch decking screws. Now it appears
> that even these decking screws have loosened up and lost traction.
>
> What's the best way to restore solid hinge attachment to the door
> frame? These doors are very heavy......

Depending on how chewed up the screw holes are, you can try the old
trick: get a bunch of small slivers of wood and some glue. Cover the
slivers in glue and drive them into the holes, let dry, then re-drill
pilot holes. Sometimes this will save the door. (Toothpicks will work in
some cases, and are especially good if they're the hardwood variety.)

Whatever you do, don't be tempted to use decking or drywall screws here.
Wrong hardware! They're hardened, which makes them much more brittle
(hence more likely to break) than the correct wood screws.


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Posted by Oren on April 12, 2008, 12:29 am
wrote:

>I've got a heavy solid-core door with hinge problems. The original
>screws have loosened up and stripped out. Several of these were
>replaced by what appears to be 3 inch decking screws. Now it appears
>that even these decking screws have loosened up and lost traction.
>
>What's the best way to restore solid hinge attachment to the door
>frame? These doors are very heavy......
>
>
>

Drill the stripped hole; behind the hinge, a little bit larger. Use a
wood/? glue and,then insert a wooden dowel. Allow to set. Trim flush
and re-drill (pilots) for the hinge screws.


Posted by mm on April 12, 2008, 1:13 am
wrote:

>I've got a heavy solid-core door with hinge problems. The original
>screws have loosened up and stripped out. Several of these were
>replaced by what appears to be 3 inch decking screws. Now it appears
>that even these decking screws have loosened up and lost traction.
>
>What's the best way to restore solid hinge attachment to the door
>frame? These doors are very heavy......

For something less heavy, I would suggest wooden kitchen match sticks
in the hole (after burning off the sulfur).

For this, maybe round toothpicks. They seem harder than straight
toothpicks, but you can use those too. If the holes are 3 inches, you
probably only need one in the bottom of the hole and one in the top,
but maybe two in each location.

If the round sticks taper too much to suit you, break off the thin
ends and use more than two.
>
>


Posted by DanG on April 12, 2008, 6:10 am
Part of the solution may be in the hinge sizing and number.

Some doors are 1 3/8 thick, some are 1 3/4.
Some doors are 6-8 tall, some are 7-0.
Fairly normal hinge sizes include 3x3, 3 1/2x3 1/2, 4 1/2x4 1/2.
Good commercial doors have hardwood stiles 1" or more thick, many
residential doors have pine stiles. The core of either can be
particle board which can do little to hold screws, so longer is
not helpful. The mortises should carry most of the load of the
door.

A 3-0/7-0 x 1 3/4 solid core door requires 3 each 4 1/2x4 1/2 butt
hinges.

I suspect the original screw holes were not predrilled and had the
hinge screws forced into pine stiles which split the wood. If the
original holes can be glued/filled/stabilized enough to hold
screws, great. Other solutions involve changing the door, half
mortise hinges, and continuous hinges.



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> I've got a heavy solid-core door with hinge problems. The
> original
> screws have loosened up and stripped out. Several of these were
> replaced by what appears to be 3 inch decking screws. Now it
> appears
> that even these decking screws have loosened up and lost
> traction.
>
> What's the best way to restore solid hinge attachment to the
> door
> frame? These doors are very heavy......
>
>
>
>



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