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how to re-use plastic cable ties Anonymous 07-20-2006
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Posted by Michael Black on July 20, 2006, 11:49 pm
"Don K" (dk@dont_bother_me.com) writes:
>> You can use a match or stove flame to melt and fuse the ends of
>> a cable-tie after you've cut it. No sense in throwing them away
>> if you cut them near the "ratchet" head (not the narrow tip).
>> These are, of course, those plastic straps you use to bundle
>> wire and such.
>>
>> It's a very strong repair when done right. Get both ends to
>> catch fire briefly, then hold them together and let them air-
>> cool gradually so the joint isn't brittle. This effectively
>> converts the one-use type to the reusable (more costly) type.
>>
>> N.C.
>
> It would probably more frugal to use nylon lacing cord rather than
> plastic ties. 1500 feet of lacing cord costs $20.50 and would be
> good for maybe about 3000 tie-downs.
> http://www.wassco.com/walaco.html
>
> Here's how to begin a cable lacing knot:
> http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/g_knott/elect23.htm
> You finish the knot by tying an overhand knot with the loose ends
> (like the first knot you make when you begin tying your shoelaces)
> and then snipping off the ends.
>
> I learned this wire lacing knot years ago and it's about as quick
> and easy as using nylon ties once you learn it.
>
> Don
>
I was thinking that myself, that cable ties are actually expensive (relative
speaking). Nobody had them years ago, and yes wiring in electronic
equipment was laced together; nobody thought twice if you needed to
cut it to get at the wires.

I'm sure there are times when cable ties are useful, I admit I've
used them for some things without giving it any thought (though, someone
else was paying for the cable ties), but for other things simply tying
is good enough. Especially when someone was talking about buying "reusable
cable ties", at which point one should be looking at alternatives.

For things where people expect to remove the things, using cable ties
seems wasteful (and if people are popping them open, that seems like
too much work to me). I tend to use twist ties, that come with plastic
bags that I'm using anyway and have lots of because I reuse them, if I
want to tie up a power cord, for storage or because it's longer than
needed when plugged in somewhere. But it's a simple matter of twisting
the wire, to use it, or untwist it if you need more cord length. Small
bits of solid wire work well too, and it's often easy to come upon hunks of
wire that someone has thrown out.

Michael



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Posted by on July 20, 2006, 11:51 pm

>> You can use a match or stove flame to melt and fuse the ends of
>> a cable-tie after you've cut it. No sense in throwing them away
>> if you cut them near the "ratchet" head (not the narrow tip).
>> These are, of course, those plastic straps you use to bundle
>> wire and such.
>>
>> It's a very strong repair when done right. Get both ends to
>> catch fire briefly, then hold them together and let them air-
>> cool gradually so the joint isn't brittle. This effectively
>> converts the one-use type to the reusable (more costly) type.
>>
>> N.C.
>
>It would probably more frugal to use nylon lacing cord rather than
>plastic ties. 1500 feet of lacing cord costs $20.50 and would be
>good for maybe about 3000 tie-downs.
>http://www.wassco.com/walaco.html
>
>Here's how to begin a cable lacing knot:
>http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/g_knott/elect23.htm
>You finish the knot by tying an overhand knot with the loose ends
>(like the first knot you make when you begin tying your shoelaces)
>and then snipping off the ends.
>
>I learned this wire lacing knot years ago and it's about as quick
>and easy as using nylon ties once you learn it.
>
>Don
>

Thank you! My father taught me how to do proper cable lacing. His
work in radio stations was truly the work of a craftsman (there is
much more to a good job than simply strapping wires together). The
plastic cable ties are down and easy quick fixes for some jobs, but
lacing is much more elegant.

Posted by SoCalMike on July 21, 2006, 4:24 am
Anonymous wrote:
> You can use a match or stove flame to melt and fuse the ends of
> a cable-tie after you've cut it. No sense in throwing them away
> if you cut them near the "ratchet" head (not the narrow tip).
> These are, of course, those plastic straps you use to bundle
> wire and such.
>
> It's a very strong repair when done right. Get both ends to
> catch fire briefly, then hold them together and let them air-
> cool gradually so the joint isn't brittle. This effectively
> converts the one-use type to the reusable (more costly) type.

why bother? theyre extremely cheap.

on that note, i do reuse garbage bags when i recycle aluminum cans.

Posted by Al Bundy on July 21, 2006, 4:46 pm

Anonymous wrote:
> You can use a match or stove flame to melt and fuse the ends of
> a cable-tie after you've cut it. No sense in throwing them away
> if you cut them near the "ratchet" head (not the narrow tip).
> These are, of course, those plastic straps you use to bundle
> wire and such.
>
> It's a very strong repair when done right. Get both ends to
> catch fire briefly, then hold them together and let them air-
> cool gradually so the joint isn't brittle. This effectively
> converts the one-use type to the reusable (more costly) type.
>
> N.C.
That's a nice trick to use in case of an all out emergency. Any other
time, it's not worth the effort and burns more BTUs in the Bic than the
cost of the tie. I buy a bag of 1000 ties for $5. I never pay more than
2=A2 for bigger ones. For more strength and 100% reusability, I use a
stainless steel screw clamp.


Posted by Logan Shaw on July 23, 2006, 1:21 am
Anonymous wrote:
> You can use a match or stove flame to melt and fuse the ends of
> a cable-tie after you've cut it. No sense in throwing them away
> if you cut them near the "ratchet" head (not the narrow tip).
> These are, of course, those plastic straps you use to bundle
> wire and such.

I just use other stuff instead of cable ties. For repairs, I
usually use a screw or some glue or nails or something rather
than jury-rigging with a cable tie. For cables, I use twist ties,
like what comes on a loaf of bread. I don't think I've ever
bought them; they come on bread, plus when you buy garbage bags,
they often come with way more twist ties than I can ever use
on the bags themselves, so I toss the excess in a drawer in the
kitchen, and I'm set. The great thing about twist ties and cables
is that they are easy to unfasten *without* getting a knife or
other tools, i.e. just using your fingers. That comes in handy
when you're, say, moving a piece of furniture and need to move
some cables to do it. For me, at least, it keeps the frustration
level down if I can just do it right then rather than having to go
grab a knife or something else that I'd need to cut a cable tie.

- Logan

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