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instructions for concrete shed base john westmore_______ 07-22-2008
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Posted by john westmore_______ on July 22, 2008, 4:49 pm


Would anyone know of some simple instructions anywhere, to help a novice to
build a concrete base for a metal garden shed to store garden tools. The
base is to be three metres by three and a half metres.

Amongst other things I would need to find out is what quantity of cement,
sand, etc I would need to buy and whether I really need to get one of those
electric mixers or I could just mix up on a wooden board. Grateful for any
advice. Thanks.



Posted by on July 22, 2008, 4:57 pm


wrote:
> Would anyone know of some simple instructions anywhere, to help a novice =
to
> build a concrete base for a metal garden shed to store garden tools. =A0T=
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> base is to be three metres by three and a half metres.
>
> Amongst other things I would need to find out is what quantity of cement,
> sand, etc I would need to buy and whether I really need to get one of tho=
se
> electric mixers or I could just mix up on a wooden board. =A0Grateful for=
any
> advice. Thanks.

Local authorities often have rules for this kind of thing. I
suggest you start by checking there. It is a real pain to have to dig
up your work just because you did not ask.

Different areas have different weather and soil conditions so what
might work well where I am could be worthless where you are.

That is a large area to try and do yourself, even with an electric
mixer. Do yourself a favor and have it done or find a friend or
neighbor who has done it before to help you plan and do the job. You
are going to want more than one person working it, Even a pro would
have problems doing it single handed.

Posted by hallerb@aol.com on July 22, 2008, 5:12 pm


On Jul 22, 4:57=EF=BF=BDpm, jmee...@columbus.rr.com wrote:
> On Jul 22, 4:49=EF=BF=BDpm, "john westmore_______" <blues...@mail.invalid=
>
> wrote:
>
> > Would anyone know of some simple instructions anywhere, to help a novic=
e to
> > build a concrete base for a metal garden shed to store garden tools. =
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> > base is to be three metres by three and a half metres.
>
> > Amongst other things I would need to find out is what quantity of cemen=
t,
> > sand, etc I would need to buy and whether I really need to get one of t=
hose
> > electric mixers or I could just mix up on a wooden board. =EF=BF=BDGrat=
eful for any
> > advice. Thanks.
>
> =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BDLocal authorities often have rules for this kind of th=
ing. =EF=BF=BDI
> suggest you start by checking there. =EF=BF=BDIt is a real pain to have t=
o dig
> up your work just because you did not ask.
>
> =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BDDifferent areas have different weather and soil condit=
ions so what
> might work well where I am could be worthless where you are.
>
> =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BDThat is a large area to try and do yourself, even with=
an electric
> mixer. =EF=BF=BDDo yourself a favor and have it done or find a friend or
> neighbor who has done it before to help you plan and do the job. =EF=BF=
=BDYou
> are going to want more than one person working it, =EF=BF=BDEven a pro wo=
uld
> have problems doing it single handed.

buying concrete by the bag like sakrete, will likely cost way more
than buying it premixed by truck.

Posted by Ralph Mowery on July 22, 2008, 8:32 pm



On Jul 22, 4:57?pm, jmee...@columbus.rr.com wrote:
> wrote:
>
> > Would anyone know of some simple instructions anywhere, to help a novice
> > to
> > build a concrete base for a metal garden shed to store garden tools.
> > ?The
> > base is to be three metres by three and a half metres.
>
> > Amongst other things I would need to find out is what quantity of
> > cement,
> > sand, etc I would need to buy and whether I really need to get one of
> > those
> > electric mixers or I could just mix up on a wooden board. ?Grateful for
> > any
> > advice. Thanks.
>
> ? ?That is a large area to try and do yourself, even with an electric
> mixer. ?Do yourself a favor and have it done or find a friend or
> neighbor who has done it before to help you plan and do the job. ?You
> are going to want more than one person working it, ?Even a pro would
> have problems doing it single handed.

>buying concrete by the bag like sakrete, will likely cost >way more
>than buying it premixed by truck.

It will take about 1 1/4 cubic meters or yards to pour it 4 inches thick.
Also must add some rebar or wire to it.

In the US it will cost about the same for about 50 of the 80 lb bags that
will be needed. It will cost more than a delivered ammount, but you will be
charged a delivery fee for the premix that will make it cost about the same.
YOu can get about 3 or 4 yards delivered for the same price as one yard
delivered.

It will take about 5 or 6 hours to mix it by hand. Somewhat less with a
small mixer. You can rent a small mixer that will hold 2 or 3 bags at a
time. That would make it about 20 loads at 5 minuits a load. Almost 2
hours of mixing.

I just filled a hole with 45 bags of premix for an antenna tower about a
year ago. Rented a small mixer to do the job. Took about 4 hours of mixing
and such. I had the concrete in 80 lb bags delivered. It would take many
trips to haul the 50 80 lb bags I got in my small pickup. Would not
recommend it, but I could not get a mixer truck to where I wanted it.

Think I had about$ 300 in it counting the delivery charge and rent of the
small mixer. At that time it would have been about $ 90 per cubic yard for
the premix, but would have had to buy atleast 4 yards or get charged for
delivery.



Posted by John Grabowski on July 22, 2008, 5:53 pm



> Would anyone know of some simple instructions anywhere, to help a novice
> to build a concrete base for a metal garden shed to store garden tools.
> The base is to be three metres by three and a half metres.
>
> Amongst other things I would need to find out is what quantity of cement,
> sand, etc I would need to buy and whether I really need to get one of
> those electric mixers or I could just mix up on a wooden board. Grateful
> for any advice. Thanks.


One thing I would look into before pouring a permanent base for your shed is
how your town's tax assessor will consider it. Sometimes permanent
installations such as pools and sheds are taxed. Too avoid this some people
just put the shed on concrete blocks or railroad ties which can be removed.


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