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insulation again donald.girod 04-01-2008
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Posted by on April 1, 2008, 8:31 am
I sat through a free dinner (chicken or shrimp) and heard a guy try to
sell me roll-out multi-layer aluminum foil insulation (apparently with
mylar in the sandwich). It is perforated so as to allow moisture
through, and installed over top of the fiberglass/cellulose/whatever
in the attic. It is claimed to reduce heat gain in the summer and
heat loss in the winter.

I don't doubt that it would be effective to some degree, but I gather
that the optimal placement for heat-gain reflective insulation is on
the underside of roof rafters, and I think that the optimal placement
for heat loss would be on the warm side of the house in the winter,
i.e. just behind the drywall, with an air gap. Laying the stuff over
12 inches of fiberglass is optimal for neither situation, but it still
might be ok.

Does anybody know what increase in effective r-value you might get
this way? I live in the north and don't use AC, so reducing heat
loss is generally more important a consideration. I searched for a
while with google but didn't find anything very relevant.

I have truss rafters, incidentally, and installing this would be a
total pain in the ass.

Posted by hallerb@aol.com on April 1, 2008, 10:11 am
On Apr 1, 7:31=EF=BF=BDam, donald.gi...@gmail.com wrote:
> I sat through a free dinner (chicken or shrimp) and heard a guy try to
> sell me roll-out multi-layer aluminum foil insulation (apparently with
> mylar in the sandwich). =EF=BF=BDIt is perforated so as to allow moisture
> through, and installed over top of the fiberglass/cellulose/whatever
> in the attic. =EF=BF=BDIt is claimed to reduce heat gain in the summer and=

> heat loss in the winter.
>
> I don't doubt that it would be effective to some degree, but I gather
> that the optimal placement for heat-gain reflective insulation =EF=BF=BDis=
on
> the underside of roof rafters, and I think that the optimal placement
> for heat loss would be on the warm side of the house in the winter,
> i.e. just behind the drywall, with an air gap. =EF=BF=BDLaying the stuff o=
ver
> 12 inches of fiberglass is optimal for neither situation, but it still
> might be ok.
>
> Does anybody know what increase in effective r-value you might get
> this way? =EF=BF=BDI live in the north and don't use AC, so =EF=BF=BDreduc=
ing heat
> loss is generally more important a consideration. =EF=BF=BDI searched for =
a
> while with google but didn't find anything very relevant.
>
> I have truss rafters, incidentally, and installing this would be a
> total pain in the ass.

with trusses just add more regular blown in insulation.


Posted by ransley on April 1, 2008, 12:23 pm
On Apr 1, 7:31=A0am, donald.gi...@gmail.com wrote:
> I sat through a free dinner (chicken or shrimp) and heard a guy try to
> sell me roll-out multi-layer aluminum foil insulation (apparently with
> mylar in the sandwich). =A0It is perforated so as to allow moisture
> through, and installed over top of the fiberglass/cellulose/whatever
> in the attic. =A0It is claimed to reduce heat gain in the summer and
> heat loss in the winter.
>
> I don't doubt that it would be effective to some degree, but I gather
> that the optimal placement for heat-gain reflective insulation =A0is on
> the underside of roof rafters, and I think that the optimal placement
> for heat loss would be on the warm side of the house in the winter,
> i.e. just behind the drywall, with an air gap. =A0Laying the stuff over
> 12 inches of fiberglass is optimal for neither situation, but it still
> might be ok.
>
> Does anybody know what increase in effective r-value you might get
> this way? =A0I live in the north and don't use AC, so =A0reducing heat
> loss is generally more important a consideration. =A0I searched for a
> while with google but didn't find anything very relevant.
>
> I have truss rafters, incidentally, and installing this would be a
> total pain in the ass.

You dont know if you ate chicken or shrimp!

Posted by Joe on April 1, 2008, 3:04 pm

>
> You dont know if you ate chicken or shrimp!

Come on Mark, you've been to these kinds of promos before. The food
stays in the warmers so long it all tastes alike. That is, if there's
any taste left at all...
When in doubt, just eat the peas, identified by the green color,
assuming the meat hasn't stayed outside too long.

Joe

Posted by on April 2, 2008, 7:54 am

>Does anybody know what increase in effective r-value you might get this way?

Very good, with lots of layers.

>I live in the north and don't use AC, so reducing heat loss is generally
>more important a consideration. I searched for a while with google
>but didn't find anything very relevant.

http://www.rima.net/handbook/HandbookAll0504.pdf

See document pages 23-27...

You might enjoy solar heat with airflow from a low-mass sunspace and
shiny hot ceiling mass over the living space, as in the Barra system.

Nick


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