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joist sag? trexxxmeister 01-19-2008
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Posted by on January 19, 2008, 3:40 pm
I am a novice DIYer who is renovating a second floor bathroom. I
removed the subfloor to move some pipes and now that I am ready to
relay the subfloor I have discovered that one of the joists ( which
are 16 inches apart) and which is in the centre of the room has sagged
an inch. It has sagged where the first floor chandalier was attached.
I removed the chandalier and tried to pull up on the joist but it
won't budge.I am limited as to how much I can push up on the joist
from the first floor because I dont want to disturb the finished
ceiling.

When I lay plywood across the joists there is an inch gap between the
plywood and the one joist. I could proceed and screw the plywood down
and then use a levelling mortar to fill the trough, or I could place
shims on the top of the 2x10 joist so that the plywood would lay
flat.What would be a good material to use as a shim? or how would an
expert proceed?
Brent
Thanks

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Posted by Nate Nagel on January 19, 2008, 3:44 pm
trexxxmeister@gmail.com wrote:
> I am a novice DIYer who is renovating a second floor bathroom. I
> removed the subfloor to move some pipes and now that I am ready to
> relay the subfloor I have discovered that one of the joists ( which
> are 16 inches apart) and which is in the centre of the room has sagged
> an inch. It has sagged where the first floor chandalier was attached.
> I removed the chandalier and tried to pull up on the joist but it
> won't budge.I am limited as to how much I can push up on the joist
> from the first floor because I dont want to disturb the finished
> ceiling.
>
> When I lay plywood across the joists there is an inch gap between the
> plywood and the one joist. I could proceed and screw the plywood down
> and then use a levelling mortar to fill the trough, or I could place
> shims on the top of the 2x10 joist so that the plywood would lay
> flat.What would be a good material to use as a shim? or how would an
> expert proceed?
> Brent
> Thanks

can you use something like a red-i-post temporarily on the first floor
to jack the joist up and then sister it and cripple it to reinforce? I
would think that crippling at a minimum would be advisable if you're
going to reinstall a heavy chandelier. Also use a ceiling fan box to
mount the chandelier and reinforce it well while you have the opportunity.

nate

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Posted by Ken on January 19, 2008, 3:45 pm
trexxxmeister@gmail.com wrote:
> I am a novice DIYer who is renovating a second floor bathroom. I
> removed the subfloor to move some pipes and now that I am ready to
> relay the subfloor I have discovered that one of the joists ( which
> are 16 inches apart) and which is in the centre of the room has sagged
> an inch. It has sagged where the first floor chandalier was attached.
> I removed the chandalier and tried to pull up on the joist but it
> won't budge.I am limited as to how much I can push up on the joist
> from the first floor because I dont want to disturb the finished
> ceiling.
>
> When I lay plywood across the joists there is an inch gap between the
> plywood and the one joist. I could proceed and screw the plywood down
> and then use a levelling mortar to fill the trough, or I could place
> shims on the top of the 2x10 joist so that the plywood would lay
> flat.What would be a good material to use as a shim? or how would an
> expert proceed?
> Brent
> Thanks

        Have you considered securing a 2 x 8 to the side of the sagging joist
and using the now level joist to secure your flooring to? If the fact
that the 16 inch on center would no longer exist for that joist could be
tolerated, that might be an easy way to go.

Posted by ransley on January 19, 2008, 3:53 pm
On Jan 19, 2:40=A0pm, trexxxmeis...@gmail.com wrote:
> I am a novice DIYer who is renovating a second floor bathroom. I
> removed the subfloor to move some pipes and now that I am ready to
> relay the subfloor I have discovered that one of the joists ( which
> are 16 inches apart) and which is in the centre of the room has sagged
> an inch. It has sagged where the first floor chandalier was attached.
> I removed the chandalier and tried to pull up on the joist but it
> won't budge.I am limited as to how much I can push up on the joist
> from the first floor because I dont want to disturb the finished
> ceiling.
>
> When I lay plywood across the joists there is an inch gap between the
> plywood and the one joist. I could proceed and screw the plywood down
> and then use a levelling mortar to fill the trough, or I could place
> shims =A0on the top of the 2x10 joist so that the plywood would lay
> flat.What would be a good material to use as a shim? or how would an
> expert proceed?
> Brent
> Thanks

You could straighten it by taking heavy 2" heavy angle iron, drill
holes every foot, take 1/2" coarse thread lag bolts, pre drill the
wood with maybe 1/4" drill and tighten them down over a few days. it
hopefully wont crack but sister another piece along side. If the hight
is to high with the angle iron plane the beam a bit.

Posted by Oren on January 19, 2008, 6:19 pm
On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 12:53:40 -0800 (PST), ransley

>You could straighten it by taking heavy 2" heavy angle iron, drill
>holes every foot, take 1/2" coarse thread lag bolts, pre drill the
>wood with maybe 1/4" drill and tighten them down over a few days. it
>hopefully wont crack but sister another piece along side. If the hight
>is to high with the angle iron plane the beam a bit.

You are serious. I figgered this was a carpentry job ?!

Oren
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