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lawn care question empress2454 09-21-2006
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Posted by Joseph Meehan on September 22, 2006, 7:52 am
empress2454@wowway.com wrote:
> thats the generl idea, in the Scotts lawn care manual they are calling
> anything like undecompsed grass clippings, and pine needles "thatch"

That is what I suspected. Those needles will last for many years and
they will prevent grass growth so they should be removed. Raking works well.

Thatch is s very specific condition and calls for a specific correction.
However far too many lawn services are calling a lot of other things by the
same name. Around here I would say that almost all de-thatching done is not
needed nor is it removing thatch, rather it removes good organic material
and is doing more harm than good. I don't know about your situation.

Since you did not tell us where you live I can only suggest that it is a
little early around where I am to seed, but it is close. In fact if the
cool weather of the last week or so is any sign, this year is going to be an
early fall and I would be getting ready. I am getting ready for my fall
lawn care a little early.


>
>
> JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>>> empress2454@wowway.com wrote:
>>>> I recently removed 2 good sized pine trees from my lawn, that have
>>>> filled the front lawn to about 1/2" with thatch. I'm planning ion
>>>> thatching the lawn, but don't know the best time to do it.
>>>> Obviously before the ground freezes, but should I do it now or
>>>> wait a little longer, I will need to plant seed afterward.
>>>>
>>>> Empressess #124457
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The best Games
>>>>
>>>
>>> Pine trees filled lawn with thatch???
>>> Joseph Meehan
>>
>> Maybe she's referring to the skinny twigs pine trees toss on the
>> ground, many of which seem to stick like glue.



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Posted by on September 22, 2006, 8:32 am

Joseph Meehan wrote:
> empress2454@wowway.com wrote:
> > thats the generl idea, in the Scotts lawn care manual they are calling
> > anything like undecompsed grass clippings, and pine needles "thatch"
>
> That is what I suspected. Those needles will last for many years and
> they will prevent grass growth so they should be removed. Raking works well.
>
> Thatch is s very specific condition and calls for a specific correction.
> However far too many lawn services are calling a lot of other things by the
> same name. Around here I would say that almost all de-thatching done is not
> needed nor is it removing thatch, rather it removes good organic material
> and is doing more harm than good. I don't know about your situation.

I agree. People obsess about thatch without really understanding
exactly what it is. Many think it comes mostly from grass clipplings,
which it doesn't. The main source is stems and stolens that are far
more resistant to decay than clipplings, which break down quickly.
And many go around tearing up their lawns to try to eliminae it with
out even knowing how much they really have. If you cut out a piece of
turf and look at it sideways, you will see a top layer of dense brown
matterial between the soil and the grass. About a 1/2 inch is normal
and beneficial. If it's more than that, then it warrants action.










>
> Since you did not tell us where you live I can only suggest that it is a
> little early around where I am to seed, but it is close. In fact if the
> cool weather of the last week or so is any sign, this year is going to be an
> early fall and I would be getting ready. I am getting ready for my fall
> lawn care a little early.
>
>
> >
> >
> > JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
> >>> empress2454@wowway.com wrote:
> >>>> I recently removed 2 good sized pine trees from my lawn, that have
> >>>> filled the front lawn to about 1/2" with thatch. I'm planning ion
> >>>> thatching the lawn, but don't know the best time to do it.
> >>>> Obviously before the ground freezes, but should I do it now or
> >>>> wait a little longer, I will need to plant seed afterward.
> >>>>
> >>>> Empressess #124457
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> The best Games
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> Pine trees filled lawn with thatch???
> >>> Joseph Meehan
> >>
> >> Maybe she's referring to the skinny twigs pine trees toss on the
> >> ground, many of which seem to stick like glue.
>
>
>
> --
> Joseph Meehan
>
> Dia duit


Posted by z on September 22, 2006, 10:37 am

trader4@optonline.net wrote:

> I agree. People obsess about thatch without really understanding
> exactly what it is. Many think it comes mostly from grass clipplings,
> which it doesn't. The main source is stems and stolens that are far
> more resistant to decay than clipplings, which break down quickly.
> And many go around tearing up their lawns to try to eliminae it with
> out even knowing how much they really have. If you cut out a piece of
> turf and look at it sideways, you will see a top layer of dense brown
> matterial between the soil and the grass. About a 1/2 inch is normal
> and beneficial. If it's more than that, then it warrants action.

True. You'd think people would realize that when they're raking or
something and snag something that resembles a tough little 6 inch long
cable running through a bunch of grass plants, that couldn't possibly
have come from the 1 inch long pieces they mowed off the top of the
grass blades.


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