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leak free threaded pipe joints Eigenvector 05-27-2006
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Posted by Eigenvector on May 27, 2006, 8:40 pm
This is really more of an exasperated shout out than a question but
sometimes you just have to ask.

After having performed many small repairs to my galvanized pipes, I'm
repeatedly thwarted by the threaded connections between the galvanized and
the replacement. Is there a real good trick to making a leak proof
connection between an old pipe and a new one? I've tried using teflon tape
in small amounts on the threads, I've tried reefing down on the joint so
hard the planet tilts sideways in reaction, I've tried cleaning the two
joints so well that you could see my reflection in the threads from a block
away. None of this ever produces a joint that stays leak free. I don't
mean a gusher, I mean drip.........drip............drip...............drip.
It does stop dripping, after about 2 weeks when rust forms between the two
pipes.

Everyone talks about pipe dope, I have yet to try that, mostly because after
a while my stubborness overcomes reality and after that all rational thought
is blocked. I guess I just don't see what pipe dope would do that 2 tons of
torque on the joint wouldn't. Just kidding really, I do understand that too
much force distorts the threads and probably makes the leak worse.

I don't seem to have this problem betwen two new pipes, only between the old
galvanized and the new one.



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Posted by Speedy Jim on May 27, 2006, 8:52 pm
Eigenvector wrote:
> This is really more of an exasperated shout out than a question but
> sometimes you just have to ask.
>
> After having performed many small repairs to my galvanized pipes, I'm
> repeatedly thwarted by the threaded connections between the galvanized and
> the replacement. Is there a real good trick to making a leak proof
> connection between an old pipe and a new one? I've tried using teflon tape
> in small amounts on the threads, I've tried reefing down on the joint so
> hard the planet tilts sideways in reaction, I've tried cleaning the two
> joints so well that you could see my reflection in the threads from a block
> away. None of this ever produces a joint that stays leak free. I don't
> mean a gusher, I mean drip.........drip............drip...............drip.
> It does stop dripping, after about 2 weeks when rust forms between the two
> pipes.
>
> Everyone talks about pipe dope, I have yet to try that, mostly because after
> a while my stubborness overcomes reality and after that all rational thought
> is blocked. I guess I just don't see what pipe dope would do that 2 tons of
> torque on the joint wouldn't. Just kidding really, I do understand that too
> much force distorts the threads and probably makes the leak worse.
>
> I don't seem to have this problem betwen two new pipes, only between the old
> galvanized and the new one.
>
>

Common problem with old galvanized pipe; the threads deteriorate
so badly that they can't possibly seal.

Pick up a small bottle of Loc-Tite thread sealant.
It makes a permanent seal without any tape or dope.
Apply to bright, clean threads.

Jim

Posted by Edwin Pawlowski on May 27, 2006, 10:22 pm

>
> Everyone talks about pipe dope, I have yet to try that, mostly because
> after a while my stubborness overcomes reality and after that all rational
> thought is blocked. I guess I just don't see what pipe dope would do that
> 2 tons of torque on the joint wouldn't.

Millions of plumbers are wrong.



Posted by hallerb@aol.com on May 27, 2006, 10:39 pm
use tape AND dope. This assures a leak free joint:)

Bigger question why not end the hassle and upgrade to PEX or copper?

Sure initially its a bit more work, but it was outlast your lifetime!

contiuning repairs to galavinized is just a grand waste of time and
effort


Posted by BobK207 on May 27, 2006, 11:58 pm

Eigenvector wrote:
> This is really more of an exasperated shout out than a question but
> sometimes you just have to ask.
>
> After having performed many small repairs to my galvanized pipes, I'm
> repeatedly thwarted by the threaded connections between the galvanized and
> the replacement. Is there a real good trick to making a leak proof
> connection between an old pipe and a new one? I've tried using teflon tape
> in small amounts on the threads, I've tried reefing down on the joint so
> hard the planet tilts sideways in reaction, I've tried cleaning the two
> joints so well that you could see my reflection in the threads from a block
> away. None of this ever produces a joint that stays leak free. I don't
> mean a gusher, I mean drip.........drip............drip...............drip.
> It does stop dripping, after about 2 weeks when rust forms between the two
> pipes.
>
> Everyone talks about pipe dope, I have yet to try that, mostly because after
> a while my stubborness overcomes reality and after that all rational thought
> is blocked. I guess I just don't see what pipe dope would do that 2 tons of
> torque on the joint wouldn't. Just kidding really, I do understand that too
> much force distorts the threads and probably makes the leak worse.
>
> I don't seem to have this problem betwen two new pipes, only between the old
> galvanized and the new one.

Thirty years ago I was a big fan of teflon tape. I was jammed up for
time on some plumbing so I hired a pro.

He told me to "stop using that crap (teflon tape) & switch to a good
dope"

He used RectorSeal & so have I even since.

Tons of torque is not the anawer! It won't overcome the imperfections
in the typical threaded galv pipe & fittings.

If you insist on staying with teflon tape use at least 3 complete wraps
maybe even 4 or 5. It will mush out of the way.

cheers
Bob


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