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lighted switches & aluminum wiring Yumpin.Yimminie 08-25-2006
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Posted by RayV on August 26, 2006, 1:13 pm

Bud-- wrote:
>
> Research done for the CPSC showed the purple wirenuts were generally not
> any beter that other wirenuts and were worse than some others. As far as
> I know they are the only ones UL listed for aluminum wire.
>
Inspect-ny.com reccomends a 3M scotchlok wirenut instead of the purple
Ideal 65 wirenut found at the Borg. These are about $4.00 for two in
NJ. I couldn't find CPSC approval for the 3M wirenut.

Here is how they reccomend pigtailing
http://www.inspect-ny.com/aluminum/pl2p12.htm

best thing to do is hire an electrician knowledgeable in aluminum
wiring repair.


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Posted by Bud-- on August 26, 2006, 2:47 pm
RayV wrote:
> Bud-- wrote:
>
>>Research done for the CPSC showed the purple wirenuts were generally not
>>any beter that other wirenuts and were worse than some others. As far as
>>I know they are the only ones UL listed for aluminum wire.
>>
>
> Inspect-ny.com reccomends a 3M scotchlok wirenut instead of the purple
> Ideal 65 wirenut found at the Borg. These are about $4.00 for two in
> NJ.
>

$2/wirenut????

> I couldn't find CPSC approval for the 3M wirenut.

The only fix recommended by the CPSC is the COPALUM high pressure crimp
which is very expensive to have done if you can even find the required
trained electrician with the necessary crimp tool.

The recommendation to use one of the 3M wirenuts is the from the
engineer who did extensive tests for the CPSC, as is the wirenut process
in your link below. None of this has been endorsed by the CPSC, but it
is based on the only extensive testing of aluminum branch circuit
connections I am aware of.

> Here is how they reccomend pigtailing
> http://www.inspect-ny.com/aluminum/pl2p12.htm
>

(It is the same as the wirenut process in the paper at
http://www.inspect-ny.com/aluminum/alreduce.htm


> best thing to do is hire an electrician knowledgeable in aluminum
> wiring repair.
>

You may have a lot of trouble finding one. There are likely
very-few-to-none familiar with the wirenut process at your link above.
And using the recommended 3M wirenut instead of the UL listed purple
wirenut may be a problem for an electrician or inspector.

bud--

Posted by bowgus on August 25, 2006, 7:15 am

> I'm kind of perplexed as why this is a concern at all. It seems like
> the little bit of electricity being used by a lighted switch is
> miniscule in comparison to what a light fixture would use.
>
> Would appreciate any insight anybody could provide.
>
> Thank you,
> Jim

The aluminum is the problem ... banned up here because the average
person can install incorrect switches etc :-)

http://www.faqs.org/faqs/electrical-wiring/part2/section-16.html

        The main problem with aluminum wiring is a phenomenon known as
        "cold creep". When aluminum wiring warms up, it expands. When
        it cools down, it contracts. Unlike copper, when aluminum goes
        through a number of warm/cool cycles it loses a bit of tightness each
        time. To make the problem worse, aluminum oxidises, or corrodes
        when in contact with certain types of metal, so the resistance
        of the connection goes up. Which causes it to heat up and corrode/
        oxidize still more. Eventually the wire may start getting very hot,
        melt the insulation or fixture it's attached to, and possibly even
        cause a fire.

Read on at the site (or Google a few sites) for appropriate fixtures,
switches etc ...


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