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measuring stuff Eigenvector 07-01-2006
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Posted by Edwin Pawlowski on July 2, 2006, 1:20 pm

> A cursory look at the energy code, fire codes, and mechanical codes and I
> didn't find any reference to requirments - other than a vague reference to
> a door being able to survive 1 hour. Obviously a hollow core wouldn't
> survive 30 seconds but the reference that I found was couched in the form
> of a suggestion rather than a requirement and it wasn't even coming from
> the code commission.
> So I'd like to know where you learned that the door has to meet a specific
> requirement, if only so that I can learn for myself and not turn my house
> into a deathtrap.

From the building inspector. Codes can vary from town to town, but they
usually follow a universal code as a minimum. I don't know of any doors that
meet the one hour rating that are not metal, but they may exist.



Posted by Michael Daly on July 2, 2006, 7:16 pm


> So I'd like to know where you learned that the door has to meet a specific
> requirement, if only so that I can learn for myself and not turn my house
> into a deathtrap

As Edwin points out, it varies from place to place. In my neck of the woods,
doors
between a garage and living quarters have to be fire rated (not sure of time,
but every one
seems to be steel) with an acoustic seal around it (for fumes) and closed by a
spring
cylinder thingy (someone will chime in with the name, I'm sure). That ensures
that the
door won't be accidently left open a crack, which would reduce the fire rating
to zero.

The price difference between a hollow core and a steel, fireproof door with auto
closure
should be considered an insurance payment. Check with your insurance broker,
The
upgrade might even get you a discount.

Mike

Posted by Edwin Pawlowski on July 2, 2006, 7:31 pm

> The price difference between a hollow core and a steel, fireproof door
> with auto closure
> should be considered an insurance payment. Check with your insurance
> broker, The
> upgrade might even get you a discount.

Or the lack of upgrade may get a cancellation



Posted by Michael Daly on July 2, 2006, 11:52 pm


> > The price difference between a hollow core and a steel, fireproof door
> > with auto closure
> > should be considered an insurance payment. Check with your insurance
> > broker, The
> > upgrade might even get you a discount.
>
> Or the lack of upgrade may get a cancellation

Make that - _after_ the upgrade, contact your broker to see if there's a
discount!

Mike

Posted by George E. Cawthon on July 2, 2006, 7:36 pm
Eigenvector wrote:
> I can replace damaged items with like items correct, or do I HAVE to update
> to code when replacing existing parts to my home? The hollow core that I am
> replacing was the original.
>
> I believe I somewhat understand what you mean by fire hazard, although what
> would code compel me do to - replace with a steel door?
>
>> Eigenvector wrote:
>>> Today I took a trip to the Lowe's store so that I could get a replacement
>>> for a hollow core door.
>> In another post you indicated "keeping the draft out from the garage."
>> Does this mean you put a hollow door to a garage? Certainly against
>> code and definitely a fire hazard issue!
>> --
>> John Ross
>
>

Since you are doing it, you can replace with
anything you want. You didn't get a construction
permit did you (I suspect that some silly
jurisdictions would want you to)?

Anyway, you probably don't need a steel door, a
solid core is acceptable in some areas. If this
is a door from the garage into the house, I would
not use a hollow core, even if it were legal. My
solid core is very heavy but they aren't that
expensive.

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