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microwave magnetron dead? mynick 10-15-2009
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Posted by GregS on October 15, 2009, 4:06 pm


>> no shorts between magnetron contacts or ground but when plugged it
>> does not heat the oven contents and has loud hum
>> Is it dead(how to make sure) or perhaps requires say 1v higher cathode
>> heating voltage than what transformer supplies?
>Could be a lot of things most are unsafe to test without proper
>equipment and experience. The voltages exceed that which can be safely
>handled by most voltmeters. Back when I used to work on these things
>the first things I would check is the diode, filament caps, power
>supply cap. I could do this safely with ohm meter and Hi-pot tester.
>I had a homebrew test bed for checking transformers, don't even think
>of measuring voltage on these even the filament are at multi kilovolt
>levels and grounded to the chassis. The decision to replace the maggie
>was usually based on a process of elimination.

I ran into that recently. It sort of started to work by generating heat,
but that didn't last long. I like using an old analog meter with the 5 KV scales.
I didn't get a chance to replace the manetron. It cost the owner a bunch for the
transformer
and diode.

The diode and transformer became BAD, but don't know at what point.
Before or after the manetron went bad.

greg

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Posted by jeff_wisnia on October 15, 2009, 6:29 pm


mynick wrote:

> no shorts between magnetron contacts or ground but when plugged it
> does not heat the oven contents and has loud hum
> Is it dead(how to make sure) or perhaps requires say 1v higher cathode
> heating voltage than what transformer supplies?


Watch out for a big capacitor in there which in some cases can give you
a nasty high voltage bite even after the oven has been unplugged for a
while.

Jeff

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(W1BSV + Brass Rat '57 EE)
The speed of light is 1.8*10e12 furlongs per fortnight.

Posted by Erik on October 16, 2009, 12:01 am


In article

> mynick wrote:
>
> > no shorts between magnetron contacts or ground but when plugged it
> > does not heat the oven contents and has loud hum
> > Is it dead(how to make sure) or perhaps requires say 1v higher cathode
> > heating voltage than what transformer supplies?
>
>
> Watch out for a big capacitor in there which in some cases can give you
> a nasty high voltage bite even after the oven has been unplugged for a
> while.
>
> Jeff

Or as a guy I know would so eloquently warn... "Dont ya'll be messin
with that s**t lest you know what you doin; it'll up'n give yo ass a
dirt nap"

Good advise too. I hate 'dirt naps' anymore, especially now that I'm a
bit older.

Microwaves reached disposable appliance status eons ago... if it's not
in warranty, spring for a new one, they're cheap.

Erik

Posted by mynick on October 16, 2009, 8:07 am


> In article
> > mynick wrote:
> > > no shorts between magnetron contacts or ground but when plugged it
> > > does not heat the oven contents and has loud hum
> > > Is it dead(how to make sure) or perhaps requires say 1v higher cathode
> > > heating voltage than what transformer supplies?
> > Watch out for a big capacitor in there which in some cases can give you
> > a nasty high voltage bite even after the oven has been unplugged for a
> > while.
> > Jeff
> Or as a guy I know would so eloquently warn... "Dont ya'll be messin
> with that s**t lest you know what you doin; it'll up'n give yo ass a
> dirt nap"
> Good advise too. I hate 'dirt naps' anymore, especially now that I'm a
> bit older.
> Microwaves reached disposable appliance status eons ago... if it's not
> in warranty, spring for a new one, they're cheap.
> Erik

I meant what is going to happen if you try replace original magnetron
with one that has 4.13v or 3.6v filament voltage but original hv
transformer gives 3.15V

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